Most stay conservative though, not really a hopeful oitlook.

No she didn’t.

There is no way to be this uninformed.

Okay i am assuming you are well meaning so i hope you have kept an open mind and are actually interested in “solutions”. I am also well meaning but my frustration will come through in my comment. I am urging you to actually read up on the issue bc you have not .

There is no epidemic. Fat people don’t need to be eradicated, be mindful about what you put out in the world, talking about fat people like THEY are a disease is incredible dehumanising. Other “unhealthy” habits we talk about are something you do not what you are.

Imagine we would treat everyone who isn’t perfectly fit like we treat fat people, imagine people commenting on your body all of the time because you aren’t jacked. We are accepting and even in favor of a level of virtriol towards fat people that would be unimaginable if done to any other kind of populace.

If you are worried for the health of people than go from there, what are the specifics you care about? Because i can guarante you thin people have all the same problems. I am thin as a stick but certainly unhealthy as fuck.

Here are some points for you to think about

1. The health sector isn’t perfect, doctors can believe in myths. Just like black people and women don’t get the pain medication they need fat people often don’t get the care they need because doctors are solely focused on their health. If you listen to fat people they will tell you all about it. BMI is not a great tool since everyone is different and just having a higher BMI is not enough information to go on.
2. Fat peoples higher risks often don’t go away when they lose weight. We need more studies here.
3. Stress is bad for your overall health. How stressful do you think it is when everyone and their mother makes your body their problem. Poor people are more often stressed too.
4. Lets be honest people don’t care about fat peoples health, they care because they don’t like seeing it. We are all unhealthier and unfitter than we could be but for everyone else it is " don’t tell others what to do"
5. The constant talk about weight triggers eating disorders and make fat people gain even more weight this is a fact not an opinion.
6. Everything can become a healthrisk, boxers destroy their brain, basejumpers regulary fall to their death, bodybuilders take too many drugs. Its not an epidemic people will do people things.

There is so much more to it, one of my favorite health podcasts is “maintenance phase” give it a listen they talk alot about all kinds of health myths.

So just don’t focus on weight focus on overall health and what people need to succeed and if people are still fat let them be fat. They can decide for themselves.

Thanks for this sane comment.

It isn’t edge cases. The BMI tells you literally NOTHING about a persons health.

This is an objectivly terrible idea and does not work like at all.

People on ozempic loose around 7 % of their bodyweight and gain it back when they stop. Not a great solution to a non existent problem.

This is crazy where i live its 9 hours manditory rest of 45 min after 4,5 hours maximum of 56 per week maximum 90 per 2 weeks. And manditory rest of 11 hours between shifts, we are still well suplied there is zero need for 14 hour shifts 12 is already crazy.

This is just really highly subjective. The US is a huge outlier since your social safety net sucks ass. Your life literally depends of your employer giving you health insurance but the rest of the world is also not that much better.

With the end of the udssr capitalism lost all motivation to proof that it can give workers a better life than communism so it started to become what it was destined to.

A 9-5 regardless of sector was guaranteed to give you a life worth living, your own house, sending your kids to college, a good pension, enough food and some luxeries. Helping the company succeed directly benefitted the worker and the worker could also often be PROUD of what they made collectivly. (obviously not true for all of human history, and we can obviously discuss the ethics of any production across time but true enough for this discussion and the time 9-5 started to be a thing)

Now all the money is going to the top, while you can still have a decent life in some sectors it is much harder. The dream of owning your home is out of reach for many, it feels like just surviving and not living. There is zero loyalty towards workers.

So a 9-5 today means giving away your lifetime to a heartless coporation doing shit that benefits no one and still die off a preventable diseas in your 2000 dollar roach infested apartment OR you can do odd jobs with less “security” and at least live your life before you meet the same end.

There are a lot of jobs you can do though that pay good enough money and are still flexible where you don’t feed the orphan crushing machine too much and are almost always in demand. You can work and travel, work in the event sector, hospitality or do something in the art sector. I know people managing weed farms getting high every day, traveling yoga teachers, artists who do odd jobs on the side or people who build their own small businesses where they don’t have to work that much anymore and so on and so forth. But it shouldn’t be on us to find meaningful work, the economy should work for us not the other way around.

The comments here are WAY WAY off.

Against popular belief shooters are neither bullied nor are they from broken homes.

Most of them have a antisocial personality disorder come from middleclass homes that are not very involved and they are male without friends. If you are interested in the stats of it all please read up on it, it is interresting but they don’t really explain why there are more shooters in the us than elsewhere, we all have narcissists and uninvolved parents.

I think it is very likely that the culture plays a bigger role than the access to guns. The US shitty gun laws are a symptom of a shitty culture towards violence as a whole. You have this glorification of the individualistic male violent archetype with guns, may it be the military, media or real life people and people with certain mental disorders will latch unto that and internalize this as powerful. (videogames STILL don’t cause real life violence i am talking about the lived culture not media as the scapegoat)

My guess is they feel towards their victims like normal people feel towards inanimate objects who fail them. We don’t function like they want us to or better they didn’t get what they feel like they DESERVE from us and since they are the individualistic, strong main character, we deserve whats coming.

I strongly believe its a mix of specific mental disorders and toxic cultures with a bad understanding of mental health.

Meh i agree that the situations aren’t the same but the hostage situation explanation just falls flat on its face as soon as you imagine people in your own country being involved on the side of the terrorists. We would not excuse bombing a whole fucking (white)country because some of them have taken hostages.

I fully agree that there are objective differences between the two conflicts but racism definetly plays a big part here if not bigger than the actual differences.

Honestly me too. And YES i am biased as hell here. I don’t like people in general and my objective opinion is that power will attract the wrong people regardless of gender.

BUUUT my subjective experience will not let me believe that women in charge would not change things for the better overall. From a purely curious place i would really like to see how it would work out, a failure would be just as interresting to me as a success.

I want to add that i also believe the main problem of patriachy is not the oppression of women but the oppression of “female” coded traits. What i would really like to see is a society that favors empathy and collaboration, i don’t need women in charge for that and i certainly don’t base my support for anyone on their genitals, that would be crazy.

You mean the propaganda against feminism, worked on you?

Oh i am not saying that there isn’t positive implications for small scale experiments i am saying that this isn’t waterproof evidence that we would see the same effect when done countrywide because the parameters change massivly.

Its not on us to “forgive” her. I don’t know why people feel like they personally got victimized by her. From all accounts she was a loving mother, the people that actually knew and loved the kids are supporting her bc they are certain she must have been insane at the time.

She should have a chance of getting out when sane since there is no reason to keep someone when not a danger anymore. I don’t really get off on punishing people, i only tolerate it as long as it serves a purpose.

Okay you have to understad that we are trying to have a civilisation here.

Your point of view is not consistent.

If you want a murderer punished like you would a “rabid animal” because we are just animals and don’t need further understanding than there is no reason to object murder in general.

If you get convinced than your opinion changed and you now have a new opinion of your own.

When you say “Solution” your endgoal would have to be that the ad creep ends and this isn’t done through personal consumption fir various reasons.

I start by telling you i am already participating in ethical consumption for decades you know what changed? Nothing.

1. The adcreep isn’t the main problem our economy rewards cut throught capitalism.There are already enough reasons to stop buying shit but people keep doing it.
2. Second Hand, i already by almost exclusivly second hand and so many others do that so second hand prices where raised so much that it often isn’t cheaper anymore. If second hand became so popular that the industry needs to react they will just addcreep for “second hand”
3. Repairing things is easier said than done, things aren’t made to last long, repairing them is very timeconsuming if you have no idea how it is done. Spending money and freetime on something that you can just buy new for cheap is unrealistic on a bigger scale.
4. buying from smaller brands from where? Any supermarket belongs to a megacorp. Just research what brands belongs to which supercorp. You almost can’t escape it. And even if you buy from small unifiliated brands once they get too popular big corp is just scooping them up.

I could go on and on but the main problem is that you would need a critical amount of people doing the same as you and they will not people will take the easiest way and you can be mad about it but you shouldn’t blame them. The crux of the issue is how the economy works. We need regulation that forces companies to act responsible anything else is doomed to fail. I am not saying don’t consume ethical where you can but if you want to really have an impact you need to focus on politics.

I am very sorry to tell you but no, people will not stop contributing once they know.

1. People don’t really care about anything not effecting them directly and immidiatly. Thats just the truth look around.
2. Don’t tell your neighbors to change, they will react hostile and you will probably drive them away further. ALWAYS talk about how these companies are mistreating THEM.

Personal responsibility is a brainwashing tactic from big corp to blame yourself and your neighbour for systematic Problems they created. Don’t fall for it.

They don’t think they have anything to hide because they think of it as “evil activity”

Reframe it, like sure you are not doing anything bad but these companies don’t care about criminal or evil behaviour. For them you are like livestock you only serve one purpose: making them money, there are no morals involved. They would sell your data to absolutely anyone for any reason! YOU can’t think of anything bad they could do with your data because YOU are not evil but THEY absolutely are. If an evil person wants your data you shouldn’t give it to them because they WILL find a way to use it against us, its a law of nature just like gravity.