Summary

A record 7.3 million people have cast their ballots over four days of advanced voting in Canada’s election, marking a 25% increase over the 5.8m advanced ballots cast in the 2021 vote.

There are further indications the election campaign dominated by threats from Donald Trump has galvanized voters, including unusually high ratings for two debates last week.

Prime Minister Mark Carney is the frontrunner, though Pierre Poilievre’s Conservative party is incrementally gaining ground.

This year, polling points to a two-party Liberal-Conservative race.

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    2 days ago

    Two party systems spells doom. It enforces us vs them.

    It’s the first indicator that something is wrong with the democratic system. Basically, democracy requires multiple opinions and have to be more nuanced than yes/no, or party1/party1. It has to be a discussion amongst the currently elected parties until an acceptable solution for the majority of members is reached. Thus only having two opposing parties will basically crumble democracy, since the discussion, the basis of democracy will not happen, and the minority will always loose.

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      2 days ago

      sort of. Having a system that allows multiple parties, like in many European countries, certainly helps with representation and discourse. But looking at Europe, it certainly doesn’t prevent a right-wing drift towards authoritarianism. There’s sooo many other things needed for a healthy democracy, like education/literacy, strong independent institutions, unions etc.

      You can just end up with two right wing parties, an extreme and a moderate one, but the moderate one catering to the extreme positions of the extreme party (and being mostly moderate in name only), and both of them forming a majority government and drifting to authoritarianism, even if there are many parties.

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        We only know what ends up in our eyes and ears and while some of us have the ability to remember and cross check and actively hunt for info and compare most of us don’t have the inclination or time.

        Unless/until we put algorithmic feeds back in a box we’re due for a new dark age.

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      Wouldn’t call carney and the liberals lefty, there centrists. The left NDP party under Singh has been losing ground as people have ben rallying around the liberals to make sure the conservatives don’t win.

      Still would probably piss off trump and his crew. They just probably won’t get much progress, but considering the direction of a lot of other western countries not backsliding into fascism is pretty good.

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        Singh has the charisma of a rock. The NPD died with Jack Layton and that is a damn shame.

        I just hope that the NPD can find it’s footing again because we need a strong left leaning party

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          I think Wab Kinew should go federal and take lead of that party. I think choosing an indigenous person might still be a bit too progressive for some parts of Canada but I genuinely think he could do really well.

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      Lol, no. We don’t need a Heritage Foundation puppet like they have in the US.
      You really think PP has the spine to stand up to Trump? He’s a puppet for the Heritage Foundation just like half the conservatives down south.

      Conservatism is an epically failed viewpoint.

      I can understand your desire for change, to be fair. But you see what happened in the US when they went that way? Same shit show up here if PP gets in.

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        Yeah but the evil libs made it harder for him to shoot guns, which is really what’s important here.

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          The key reasons being that you’re a selfish, ignorant, gun-nut loser.

          But sure, add “people are mean to me when I advertise that I’m a shithead” to the list. Your thin-skin is pretty standard for Conservatives.

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            Your thin-skin is pretty standard for Conservatives.

            Conservatives?? Your liberal government removed minimum sentencing for reoffending criminals and then complained about the increase in crime.

            But yes, let’s target licensed hunters and sports shooters because it’s clearly their fault. Obviously PAL holders receiving daily background checks was not enough.

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            The key reasons being that you’re a selfish, ignorant, gun-nut loser.

            But sure, add “people are mean to me when I advertise that I’m a shithead”

            Your thin-skin is pretty standard for Conservatives.

            Further solidifying my previous statement.

            Perhaps instead of hurling insults the second someone opposes you, have a constructive conversation? Lmao

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              Further solidifying my previous statement.

              “I turned Conservative because of a mean comment online”

              What a self-own.

              Perhaps instead of hurling insults the second someone opposes you, have a constructive conversation? Lmao

              Why, so you can ignore it?

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                Why, so you can ignore it?

                I didn’t ignore it, read it, gave it a +1 and moved on. I didn’t disagree with their comment so any input made by me would have be unnecessary.

                Everyone has the right to their own opinion.

                I turned Conservative because of a mean comment online

                I turned conservative when every liberal became radically defensive over the smallest issues.

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                  I didn’t ignore it, read it, gave it a +1 and moved on. I didn’t disagree with their comment so any input made by me would have be unnecessary.

                  Good lord, that’s such bullshit. If you agreed with what they said, then you wouldn’t be out here still supporting the Cons. They even directly asked you a question, which you ignored. Stop lying.

                  I turned conservative when every liberal became radically defensive over the smallest issues.

                  Yeah, fucking human rights getting in the way of the important things like shooting muh little guns.

                  Conservatives are the absolute champions at bitching and complaining about non-issues. Go shoot your guns at some Bud Light, loser.

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          So why did you vote conservative? Was it simply “I don’t want liberal” or do you actually like their policies? (Genuine question I’m not trying to insult you)

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            So why did you vote conservative?

            Before I applied for my RPAL/PAL I cared very little about politics, once the government started banning a hobby I actually enjoyed is when it pushed me to register and vote.

            While I support a good handful of liberal policies the whole situation felt like their focus (especially when it comes to crime) was in the complete wrong direction.

            The housing market hasn’t gotten any better in the last 4 years, Canada is continuously growing but yet our homeless population is ridiculously high. Having coked out fentanyl zombies roam our streets is also something I highly disagree with.

            Also as seen in my other comments from my experience liberals can’t handle someone opposing their ideas, while i admit, I see a lot of hate towards the LGBTQ+/BLM folks you simply can’t force everyone to like who you are.

            I can go on longer but my break is about to end so I’ll leave this here. Thank you for responding respectfully.