• sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz
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    Bro I need gaslighting lessons from PP; how is he losing his riding, losing an election he has polled 20+ points in the lead in for almost two years, and yet gives a speech where he not only says he will stay on as leader, but makes it seem like losing the election was his desired outcome??

    Really sad about Jagmeet and the NDP wipeout tbh. I know why it happened, but if I’m not mistaken the universal pharma and dentalcare we have now were initiatives pushed by the NDP that the Liberals get credit for because they were the ones holding the PM seat.

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      “if I’m not mistaken”

      That’s how the NDP loses, even someone who seems to have a minimum of interest in politics isn’t sure that it was the NDP that got us that. Yes, they forced Trudeau’s hand on that question.

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      but if I’m not mistaken the universal pharma and dentalcare we have now were initiatives pushed by the NDP that the Liberals get credit for because they were the ones holding the PM seat.

      No one who has any political awareness would give the liberals credit for that. That was the NDP’s contribution.

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        Same as universal health care… it was an NDP initiative that the Liberals took nationally.

        Without the NDP, our Liberals suck… which is why I am sad after this election (still happy PP won’t be around)

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          I’m hopeful that it really is just a temporary thing given the Trump situation and with a new leader and that behind us (might take more than 1 term of course) that they’ll be able to come back stronger and make the Liberals advance things they wouldn’t otherwise again. Also you never know, maybe they’ll get some leverage with the current set up, but seems less likely for this term.

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            Agreed… I only vote Liberal when I believe the Conservatives are getting dangerous and the Liberals have a chance to beat them.

            I will continue to support the NDP with my vote and wallet in the future

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        No one who has any political awareness would give the liberals credit for that. That was the NDP’s contribution.

        A lot of voters aren’t aware. If it’s not being blasted on repeat by a news channel, then at least 50% of the electorate has no idea what’s happening. We’re also so inundated with American politics that Canadian news gets drowned out as well.

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      Jagmeet was getting wiped out regardless. The fatigue that existed for Trudeau was also present for Singh and Pollievre.

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      Bro I need gaslighting lessons from PP; how is he losing his riding, losing an election he has polled 20+ points in the lead in for almost two years, and yet gives a speech where he not only says he will stay on as leader, but makes it seem like losing the election was his desired outcome??

      Because he is a weasel… he was in opposition for almost 3 years against Trudeau when Trudeau was toxic and PP was unable to make ONE meager alliance with nobody. We have Jagmeet to thanks because, like me, he could not stomach a PP majority