• misk@piefed.socialOP
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    4 days ago

    What you’re calling Proton is mostly Wine which was developed by countless people unaffiliated with Valve and funded primarily by Codeweavers over past couple of decades.

    There’s no lesser evil here, Valve is out there to make money by any means necessary, including marketing online gambling to children. Which is also why feature like this will never be implemented in Steam - they have a monopoly so why would they make it easier for others.

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      Valve is out there to make money by any means necessary

      That is quite literally the point of owning and operating a business, income that is profitable is what every well developed business strives for.

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        That’s the case because of the capitalism of course but somehow Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft were mostly able to restrain themselves in that regard. I guess they face more scrutiny because their finances are public and Valve can pretend to be your friend because you don’t know how much money they print with electronic gambling. Valve has more in common with EA here.

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        It would be whataboutism if I changed subjects but I’m pointing out both companies are quite similar when it comes to distributing proprietary software, openwashing and relying vendor lock-in.

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          I don’t have the energy or the inclination to educate bad faith agents on the internet. Mentioning Valve when I Iiterally only mentioned Linux and MS is whataboutism.

          That there is the main reason I left reddit. Go find some windmills to fight.

          Meanwhile, anyone reading this would be smart not to fall for MS’s bootleg low effort gaming software ads and steer clear from anything that parasitic monolith produces. One never knows when the OS you use for gaming is used to guide bombs to your building.

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            Mentioning Valve when I Iiterally only mentioned Linux and MS is whataboutism.

            You do get your games through Steam, don’t you? It’s a fairly safe assumption given that you stated you play on Linux. Valve monopoly there is even stronger than on Windows.

            Gaming spaces are full of pointless negativity these days so my „whataboutism” was meant to showcase that much of it is rooted in tribalism, serves no other purpose than to feel good about yourself and it can cut both ways.

            That there is the main reason I left reddit. Go find some windmills to fight.

            There’s plenty of gaming communities in the Fediverse to pick from, you won’t find me in other ones.

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                Microsoft is a huge company so unless it’s the gaming division doing the Gaza genocide then you’re engaging in an actual whataboutism that you dislike so much.

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                  Microsoft is a huge company so unless it’s the gaming division doing the Gaza genocide then you’re engaging in an actual whataboutism that you dislike so much.

                  I hate to come to these terms because I don’t know you personally and I’m sure you’re othewise a wonderful chap but the sentence quoted above is profoundly idiotic at every level. Please don’t stoop to this level of stupidity, it’s beneath your intelligence I’d wager.

                  I’ll provide an example so you can see it too.

                  Microsoft Russia is a huge company country so unless it’s the gaming division Abramovic doing the Gaza Donbass genocide, then you’re putting sanctions on him is engaging in an actual whataboutism that you dislike so much.

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                    I think you forgot to make a point in your comment, unless saying my opinions are dumb is everything you wanted to communicate. In that case, may I ask you to elaborate on why you think that is because all I’m seeing is a speedrun of Godwin’s law.