• finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        It’s kind of a false dilemma to say everyone should do it or nobody should do it. There are a lot of things that would destroy the economy or even the world if everyone did it. I think there is a healthy amount of small family owned rental properties like the one in the meme.

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          It’s a simplistic statement, but it’s not meant to be that broad, it’s meant to be taken for this type of practice.

          If everyone lived off leeching off someone else or from being middlemen, without producing anything, there would only be money moved with no products, labor, or services.

          It’s not meant to be applied to something like “what if everyone’s business was just opening a pub?”. The economy would be destroyed without diversification and many kinds of businesses. But being a landlord isn’t anything like that. Particularly those that won’t freaking repair anything wrong with the house, just take their checks and the tenant is on their own.

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      What? Your comment doesn’t make sense. If everyone did any profession solely we would destroy the economy. If everyone became doctors, there would be no engineers or pilots. We would still be doomed. A diversity of vocations are necessary regardless of which vocation.

      *Edit. I was thinking maybe you mean investments. But the same holds true there. AND because of hedgefunds and private equity it’s becoming more and more of all the money funneling into a handful of companies. All the economists are sounding alarm bells on this. But considering the direction our leaders are taking us, I think this is all part of the plan.

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        Landlording is not a profession.

        Handyman is a profession. Real estate management is a profession. Landlording is simply siphoning money through the act of owning something.

        The economy can tolerate a finite number of leaches before dying. We currently have too many. The ideal number is zero.

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          Landlording is simply siphoning money through the act of owning something.

          This actually applies to most all investments.

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            ALL forms of making money from having money need to be abolished completely.

            If you’re not creating/selling a product or providing a service, you’re not EARNING money. Furthermore, rich people getting richer through passive income is the #1 thing diminishing the returns from actually worthwhile endeavors.

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              I somewhat agree with you. And I 150% agree that “rent seeking behavior” doesn’t add to society.

              But what if you want to sell a product you designed but can’t afford to create it or to setup a factory for it, so you want funding, so you try to get investments, maybe by selling equity in your company. Is that not valuable to society? The people that take the risk that your product may not sell?

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                How did anyone do anything before currency was invented?

                Your comment implies that what you describe is a requirement for a functioning society

                It isn’t.

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                  Before currency was invented might be a stretch— back then, which was a long long long, time ago we likely didn’t even have professions in the same sense. Albeit Dave might have had a knack for fishing, Kendra for making canoes etc.

                  There was plenty of space in the wilderness you could just go live for free. Now we have a lot of people, we need agriculture to support that population; there isn’t enough land for hunter gatherer societies to exist without a large population collapse first.

                  Now to your point I suppose we could have a society without money; yet I think there is some freedom in currency even if everyone gets a UBI. It allows two random strangers to come together and have one person buy something without having to trade an item that the other person wants, then the seller can go buy something they want.

                  Without currency we would have to have a somewhat complex trading system, which inevitably would see certain items of rarity never traded, or traded for so much surplus goods that a new ironically materialistic moneyed class would develop. It would make for an interesting book, but I think so long as people have varied interests and desires, and create creative works, money is a useful thing.

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    I don’t understand. What exactly is the complaint here? That they’re over charging or charging at all?

    Or is this just bandwagon hate on a common and ancient business practice?

    Because there is nothing immoral or unethical about having multiple rental property.

    And don’t give me this shit about how they’re evil for over charging. The middle class holds all the power all we’re lacking is organization and education.

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      Because there is nothing immoral or unethical about having multiple rental property.

      You’re charging someone for you doing nothing so they can have a basic need to survive. It’s very immoral

      If you’re gonna try to defend an immoral act with

      Or is this just bandwagon hate on a common and ancient business practice?

      Then Ill assume you’re pro-slavery and move on

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        Charging for housing isn’t immoral just because it’s a necessity. By that logic, grocery stores are immoral for charging for food, and doctors are immoral for charging for healthcare. Property ownership and rental markets exist because providing and maintaining housing costs money. If your argument is that the system should be reformed, fine, let’s talk solutions. But calling all landlords inherently immoral is just lazy thinking.

        Also your comment on slavery is offensive which I believe is the only reason you added it which makes you sound even more stupid.

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          Also your comment on slavery is offensive

          So you know your argument works perfectly for slavery, can see how it applies and are embarrassed enough being called out on it to be offended, but not to rethink yourself? That response is actually why I included it: easy way to tell you’re not to be taken seriously

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            Oh, please. Get off your intellectual high horse. Your ability to string coherent words together doesn’t mean you actually know anything. All you’ve done is throw out a false equivalency and some hyperbole. I present arguments, and you respond with pseudo-intellectual gibberish. The people who take you seriously are the same ones who fart into wine glasses, idiots. I’m so tired of you hipster fucks on Lemmy. You talk about things you don’t understand and convince yourselves you’re enlightened. You’re just short-sighted trash wrapped in $100 words and YouTube rhetoric.

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              All you’ve done is throw out a false equivalency and some hyperbole

              No, I pointed out that your main argument in your original comment was terrible as it was an equally valid defense for slavery, figuring that if you got butthurt at being called out on it that you weren’t worth engaging mentally with, as anyone of any decency would see that and go “oh fuck dude maybe I should rethink at least that part of my stance”, it’s literally what I said in my comment ffs

              you respond with pseudo-intellectual gibberish

              My point, non-intellectual as it may be (like basically everything I do), wasn’t gibberish to anyone with basic reading comprehension