maybe they want to go into the next phase looking credible? i mean they do want to turn gaza into some sort of real estate bullshit eventually don’t they.
Imagine how much longer they could’ve kept the whole thing going if not for social media. If people were only exposed to the mainstream news narrative, we wouldn’t even know there was a genocide going on right now.
And would you imagine that, all of a sudden every nation wants to gatekeep social media with online ids. What a coincidence…
yeah not very subtle
I’ve thought about this a lot. There are plenty of things to blame social media for but I still think there’s a net positive when you consider being able to quickly share information and all the exposure to people from different cultures, religions, and ethnicities.
Well, we’re on federated social media here so it doesn’t apply here, but the big tech owned social media certainly can suppress things they don’t want spread.
That’s actually why TikTok got canned. They didn’t really care about the data collection, it’s because they couldn’t force TikTok to moderate to their liking like Facebook, Google, and Twitter since they were foreign based.
Which is also why they sold its majority ownership to Larry Ellison (Oracle) who is infamously a hardcore Zionist.
But seriously, the amount of content that gets deleted and whitewashed online is insurmountable. OSINT becomes a pain in the ass because you literally cannot find the origin of media because the user was either wiped and banned or shared on private channels like WhatsApp or Telegram where you’ll never find the original person who shared it
Luckily, everyone mass reposts which makes it near impossible to remove the content itself, but then tou have to use alternative methods to develop a timeline, authenticity, context, etc.
That’s the single best thing about the internet in my opinion as well.
I would not call 2 incidental interviews proof of change.
They are drowning in a sea of much larger MSM outlets pushing the genocider propaganda, unfortunately.
Sparsely allowing a critical view might as well be intentional to uphold an image of neutral and objective news.And yes social media did its part.
But just as the MSM the US regime and zionists make shure they can control the narrative there too.
As happened with Facebook, Reddit, X, and others if they can reach a large audience.The best example and directly related to Palestine is the takeover of Tiktok.
The news on Palestine was prominent and uncensored.
Since it was Chinese owned it was a nightmare for the US/zio regime.It was the zioscum like ADL Greenblatt “we really have a Tiktok problem” and others who got the US regime to take action against it.
And this ghoul is also a marvelous example.And this is the result
I think the fact that these kinds of interviews are happening at all is significant. While they’re doing everything they can to suppress this, the public opinion is not really going along with the narrative. And that creates a dilemma for them. Either they continue to deny the genocide and continue losing credibility or they have to start discussing it however tepidly.
IMO it is only significant if a significant portion of the MSM does this.
I hope they will but I’m sceptical about it.
When you say they worry about losing credibility it is more or less the same as my comment saying they are doing it to maintain the illusion of neutrality.
My guess is they will only moderately allow it, just enough to placate the public opinion and have them not lose faith in their ‘news’
As long as the US regime supports the genocider regime the vast majority of news will continue to reflect that.It’s not going to happen overnight, but if they continue to ignore this then people become more and more disillusioned. A lot of people already have lost faith in mainstream outlets, so there could just be a collapse in public trust. And there’s a greater context for this too because the standard of living is collapsing at the same time. So, people see their lives get worse, they see the media talk about how great DOW is doing, and then they start connecting things and realizing they live in a house of mirrors.
You get it:
MSM has to maintain the illusion for the majority of their subjects,
so they have to balance between pushing-as-hard-as-they-can to manage their population’s “knowing”…
but they have simultaneously to keep owning their subjects, & that obliges them to hold-back enough to retain credibility…
Not an enjoyable tightrope to walk.
I prefer the more-cutthroat culture of journalism/science, where disagreement is normal.
That isn’t going to be preferred by humankind in-general in my lifetime…
So, instead of survival-of-the-fittest ( the disagreement-is-normal cultures ), we’ve got survival-of-the-momentarily-dominant-consensus, with no roots-to-objectivity … & then … viability is only … political-moment, or social-moment: it isn’t robust, or strongly-rooted.
< shrug >
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Right, there’s nothing wrong with disagreement because it just means people have different perspectives. Discussing these perspectives in a civilized fashion creates a more complete understanding for everybody. That’s what debates are meant for, people present their positions and defend them, so that the counterparty can point out problems or inconsistencies. And through this process you build shared understanding of things.
But when debate happens in our media is just a spectacle of idiots yelling at one another and talking over each other incoherently. And that’s presented as providing different views. There’s no depth, no substance, and no actual debate happening. It’s just a bunch of people yelling I’m right.
And that’s a broader problem in the media too now where there’s no more investigative journalism. The media outlets simply parrot whatever the official narrative is, there’s no analysis, no historical context, and no push back. In a sense, the only real debate happening is the one between mainstream and social media. And, in a way, it’s kind of hilarious how regular people do a better job explaining things now than professional news outlets. Hence why social media is winning the debate.
I still remember the exact article that radicalised me against Israel, breaking over 30 years of indoctrination:
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-848592
They outright (indirectly) confirm that more than 1-in-4 people killed in Gaza by the IDF were women, children, or elderly.
Most moral military, my ass! In a just world, they would all be tried at The Hague for war crimes.
Oh, l don’t doubt those figures whatsoever - I was more just sharing what exactly caused the veil fell from my eyes and I began to see Israel as the monster it (always?) was.
Especially when you realise that in that 72% figure that the IDF claimed included children as young as 13 as “combat age”.
At Harvard, the school’s president recently decried “anti-Israeli bias,” which he called“insidious and maybe more corrosive of University life” than antisemitism.
I missed that one.
Maybe if Israel stopped butchering people in massive numbers there wouldn’t be such a bias against them. Doesn’t take a large brain to figure that out.
It’s not “bias”
Israel literally shoots babies and children for fun.
They are committing genocide.
They have rape prisons.
They have attacked all of their neighbors, and other countries not directly bordering them.
They are currently attacking Lebanon with thousands of bombs, during a ceasefire, stealing ten percent of the country while claiming it is “self defense”
They’ve destroyed entire Christian and Muslim villages in Lebanon.
They’ve killed more journalists than all the other countries combined during the time these stats have been measured.
They’ve occupied Gaza and the West Bank for over 50 years.
They harbor Pedophiles.
Anyone who supports the current Israeli government is literal scum. There’s nothing to debate.
Its not even hyperbolic saying that they love shooting kids for fun, Abby Martin has been showing videos of IDF soldiers filming themselves shooting kids since at least a decade now, and they’ve done it before social media was a thing too.
I wish the Zionists would realize it really is this simple. You get to choose your allegiances, but you also get to own the consequences. The fun left wing Zionist look is over and you will be seen exactly as you are.
ALL your doing is DESCRIBING GOOD JEWS you ANTISEMITE!
-The BBC, Harvard, The UK and The New York Times!
It is bias, but it’s justified bias.
No. It’s not “bias” to state facts.
It’s just how Israel operates. A racist, terrorist, colonialist, genocidal regime falsely claiming to represent all Jewish folks in the world.
It’s not bias, you’re wrong. Bias means you are not looking at the facts correctly because of some other distraction. These are all facts.
Anyone who supports the current Israeli government is a fucking joke.
That’s a mask off moment.
Zionists only care about themselves and their genocider country.
They don’t care about antisemitism since they despise jews that don’t want to live in israhell.What you are saying doesn’t make sense.
The Palestinian people are Semites.
The current Israel government is the most antisemitic regime in the history of creation.
What are you talking about?
That’s exactly what I saidI was drinking but I think I was suggesting that they do care about antisemitism because they are the most antisemitic lol
That’s why I didn’t downvote you
“What I really felt was most disturbing as a Jewish president, but also somebody who cares personally a lot about the issues that were being discussed, is the level of ignorance among people on all sides of this issue,” he said.
Of course
Why won’t we believe their lies? It’s worked for the past 50 years, why not now?
“Zionism is not reformable. The state of Israel is, but the state of Israel has to be reinvented… and it cannot be reinvented according to this ethno-national principle that has taken a hold of it. What Israel needs right now is shock therapy.”
A few well-aimed bombs ought to fix it.
What Israel needs right now is shock therapy.
it’s legit amusing how capitalists can only think of austerity and economic ruin as a solution to all sorts of problems like shuffles cards zionism. like how can we ever reform a country? turbo hypercapitalism, of course, it’s the only possible way.
Because it worked so well in Russia! Just ask Putin and Jeffrey Sachs!
