• PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca
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    23 hours ago

    I mean the whole point of flock is that they can track you everywhere. Destroying their cameras doesn’t destroy the footage.

    If you destroy their cameras they will just trace your movements backwards until they find a way to identify you.

    You need to find a way to do it surreptitiously so it’s not clear who is doing it, and they won’t be able to figure it out by process of elimination by seeing who is commonly present when a camera iss destroyed.

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      23 hours ago

      If this were really true, there would be no crime right now. Nancy Guthrie has been missing for months now despite the perpetrator being caught on camera in an affluent neighborhood where there would be many Ring, Flock etc. cameras. These companies overpromise and underdeliver as they all do. Their main purpose is get people to pay them. They are much less competent than they claim to be.

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        22 hours ago

        Idk, I think they can probably do a reasonable job tracing a drone back to it’s takeoff location, and then tracking the person who brought it there back to their home, with decent coverage.

        That said I don’t know if I’m overestimating their ability regarding machine learning and AI - this is probably fairly labour intensive unless they’ve don’t a good job preparing all their data and they have plenty of compute.

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            10 hours ago

            I mean if they can track a car around the city using their cameras, they can probably do the same for a drone. Even if you fly up out of view they could look for drones in a radius flying down into view and connect the dots.

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              10 hours ago

              Resolution of those cameras is limited and they are usually angled down. Also they are not on private property. So it can be assumed that max detection rate of a average sized done is maybe 80m tops, after that the drone itself is smaller than a singular pixel of the cam. Meanwhile range of those drones can be multiple km.

              If u had said they can use the integrated wide band SDR recordings of cell towers to triangulate the remote controller…i would have given u a point, but triangulating a drone using cameras that look down is not credible.

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                6 hours ago

                One of the big controversies is that these companies do have access to cameras on private property, using things like ring doorbell cameras.
                And depending on conditions, you can still track the movement of something smaller than a pixel. Smaller than a pixel doesn’t mean invisible, it affects the color of that pixel and you can track the movement of the disrupted pixel.
                And you have to actually get close enough you the camera lens to damage it, so there is continuity; they’re not just looking at a strange color pixel and leaping to the conclusion that it is a drone, they see the drone flying off into the distance (in reverse) and cross reference it with other cameras to track the movement at a distance.

                It’s a lot of effort, but protecting the investments of the wealthy is one of the only things that will mobilize both the finances of the wealthy and the actual effort of the police.

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        10 hours ago

        That’s an expensive way to get rid of a single camera, and they could theoretically track a drone around the city like they track people, and they’d track it back to you.