

Do you have a reliable source or examples for this toxicity, or is not being able to spread misinformation due to the rule of sourcing your claims the toxicity you’re alluding to? No human structure will ever be perfect, but Wikipedia is a whole lot more credible than the organization that’s currently threatening them, and the wackos celebrating it.
Edit: Out of curiosity, I’ve even given you the benefit of a doubt and looked through your reddit link you provided to someone else. Some of the examples provided there I have even heard of like the resulting AARoads wiki and the “definition of recession” controversy, but it does seem overshadowed by a mountain of spurious sources and examples.
I see references to bad moderation, and examples of incidents, some verifiable. This isn’t surprising, nor would I try to dispute it.
I see claims of manipulation of the rules, that there are people who try to goad others into enforcement traps. And while there’s no solid evidence, I don’t doubt that.
What I’m not seeing is any suggestion of a solution. Wikipedia has a slew of rigorous mechanisms to allow for community moderation, resolution/stoppage of edit wars, and well documented escalation paths. It has flaws, and it is a work of volunteers with inherent biases, hence the systems to address them. Instead of curating a list of deficiencies, it may be more effective to start building a list of potential solutions to the deficiencies at hand. If you were to take the existing model of Wikipedia, it’s rules, it’s moderation… What would you change to improve it? And more importantly, how?
Ah, you replied while I was reading and writing my edit. It works better as a reply here.
Out of curiosity, I’ve even given you the benefit of a doubt and looked through your reddit link you provided to someone else. Some of the examples provided there I have even heard of like the resulting AARoads wiki and the “definition of recession” controversy, but it does seem overshadowed by a mountain of spurious sources and examples.
I see references to bad moderation, and examples of incidents, some verifiable. This isn’t surprising, nor would I try to dispute it.
I see claims of manipulation of the rules, that there are people who try to goad others into enforcement traps. And while there’s no solid evidence, I don’t doubt that.
What I’m not seeing is any suggestion of a solution. Wikipedia has a slew of rigorous mechanisms to allow for community moderation, resolution/stoppage of edit wars, and well documented escalation paths. It has flaws, and it is a work of volunteers with inherent biases, hence the systems to address them. Instead of curating a list of deficiencies, it may be more effective to start building a list of potential solutions to the deficiencies at hand. If you were to take the existing model of Wikipedia, it’s rules, it’s moderation… What would you change to improve it? And more importantly, how?