What makes you think I can’t handle disagreement? If If think someone is using shaky reasoning I am allowed to call them out, and use my actual knowledge on the subject to defend my point.

I am not saying google or apple have the best of intentions. They don’t and that’s why I use GrapheneOS.

Sandboxing is generally a good thing so long as it’s done in a transparent way that can be controlled by the user. Hence the popularity of flatpaks, AppArmor and why GrapheneOS has even stricter sandboxing options than stock android. Walled garden ecosystems aren’t good, and neither is spying. Apple is guilty of both of those, with google being guilty of the latter. You’re painting all of these distinct things with the same brush even though they are basically cross purposes to each other. Different mechanisms are made for different reasons. The current state of mobile is the result of more than one decision made with different aims in mind. I am not saying that security is the primary consideration for all of these, certainly telemetry wasn’t added for security reasons. Just that it’s not as simple as you want to think. Nuances exist.

This is not subjective either. Someone somewhere will know the actual reasons these decisions were made. Even though we don’t know the exact thought process behind them, we can still reason about what these mechanisms do and are useful for. Android itself is open source and these mechanisms are reviewed by other security researchers. You’re just saying that to get out of the leg work of actually understanding the nuts and bolts of this stuff and what is and isn’t supporting the end user.

Your confusing different parts of the system here, and showing a lack of understanding of the security and privacy concepts involved.

Stopping malicious apps is not the point of the permissions model or of the file structure. It’s meant to restrict what malicious apps can do, not prevent them from being installed. It applies to side loaded apps just as much as ones from the play store. Malicious code ending up on users devices does not make that system a failure, as that was never the aim.

As for spying, the permissions model makes that harder as apps can’t just access all the files made by the other apps. These kinds of mechanisms also exist on desktop Linux via flatpak and snapcraft for similar reasons. Mandatory and discretionary access control is important for both security and privacy. The two are not at odds here, they are in fact very much aligned.

The app store part is separate and not at all what was being discussed. That is meant to stop malicious apps from getting onto devices. In the case of Apple this is definitely also about control, but android has always allowed third party apps and sideloading.

Google’s own services and Apple’s own services are part of the OS and potentially have access to things others don’t so can very much engage in spying. That could be said of any Android manufacturer with their own ROM. You can do whatever you want if you made the ROM, android permissions model be damned.

What reason do you think? Also what makes you think it was a failure? Seems pretty successful to me.

It’s mainly done for security reasons, but yes it is not the most friendly way of doing things.

Sea lioning is when you relentlessly pursue someone for evidence. I am not asking for evidence, I am asking what you are talking about in the first place. How am I supposed to understand what you are talking about if you aren’t willing to explain?

I gave a quick look into it and it seems it has nothing to do with lesbians or women in general, but is a law effecting everyone that some facilities and police officers have abused in potentially illegal ways. If what I am reading is correct this is a serious problem, but has not much in particular to do with what you are talking about. From what I can see it’s an issue to do with ableism, not homophobia or sexism. So you must clearly know something I don’t, or are just trying to waste both of our time.

Who do you think “my type” is exactly? Why do you think I have to be your enemy? You talk about engaging in good faith, while doing the exact opposite. All I asked is for an explanation, which would be simple and easy to do, and I may well even agree with whatever it is you are referring to. Instead you play mind games and try to be insulting. If you actually want to get people on your side this isn’t how you do it.

I mean yeah, your being deliberately obtuse and rude for no reason, even though what you are talking about only applies to a certain geopolitical area. You’re literally expecting me and everyone else to have knowledge of something even though there is not reason anyone outside the USA or California should know about it. You’re also relying on implications, which isn’t great when half the people on this site are autistic including yours truly. It’s like if I expected you to know what a Pacer train is and what it implies about the state of rail transportation in northern england. Like what you don’t live in England and have an interest in trains?

Are you trying to say that gay women get put on suicide holds for illegitimate reasons? If so why not just say that and stop being an ableist arsehole?

No you didn’t. You said they were a rite of passage which doesn’t make sense. Are you capable of explaining what on earth your talking about?

What does this have to do with gay women?

What is a 5150 hold exactly and how is it relevant? It seems it’s a California thing, and I don’t live in or have ever visited Los Estados Unidos.

If we are talking about hard drugs and teratogens then we should also add birth control to alcohol since it’s a hard drug that causes birth defects.

These are all good points but they also apply to alcohol which is a hard drug and a teratogen (causes birth defects). I suspect that people would throw a hissy fit if this was suggested, yet it actually makes perfect logical sense. If meth comes with birth control then all known teratogenic recreational drugs should come with birth control, as no one should be consuming them while pregnant.

IP over ham radio is a thing, so yes. Wouldn’t be very fast mind you.

This could all end in war against the USA at this point. Honestly that might be for the best at this point.

I was being sarcastic.

Sure

I hadn’t considered that. I can’t say I know much of the struggles of lesbians.

If the mother is so bad and abusive then why is your wife helping her? I think the sister did the right thing here. The state has mechanisms to take care of the elderly for good reasons.

No one is saying women don’t have it rough. The difference is one gender is being pushed out of society, the other is being pushed under it. Men are basically encouraged to give up and go away, maybe commit suicide or go fight in a war. Women are encouraged to find a “man” and become some tradwife who has no agency. Neither is a good thing, but don’t pretend they aren’t different.

This is a rather bizarre response to come up with. First I am not an incel, that’s a right wing ideology I don’t subscribe to. I mean some of the concepts they use don’t even make sense statistically - like they are logically impossible. I digress.

Women make up more than half the population. Sexism wouldn’t have been as big of a problem and still wouldn’t be as big of a problem if women didn’t perpetuate it too. Just look at the trad wife movement or modern women who despise feminism, or like any women’s beauty standards, or the whole thing about matching outfits, etc. All of these are forms of sexism that men just don’t engage in to nearly the extent women do. Purity tests for butch lesbians and trans girls is another one. At least you can argue that men also do that, but they aren’t the ones kicking women out of bathrooms.

Absolutely toxic masculinity is a problem largeley caused by men, but that’s not the fault of the individual. Like I didn’t decide that boys don’t cry. Plenty of women too help perpetuate and reinforce these ideas by doing things like breaking up with men who show any vulnerability. There is a reason why gay men are better at this.

As for the whole thing of slipping further away from feminine qualities - you do know not all past societies were more feminine, right? Have you heard of ancient Greece? You do realize feminism has made large strides at addressing much of these issues? Like this all used to be much worse, things have been progressively changing for the better and still are in most places. It’s only the USA that seems to have taken a nosedive recently. Even that is a push back against broader change.