Where have I ever been hyper nationalist or even nationalist at all? You just don’t want to contend with the fact that you’re pro imperialism and colonialism and an outright chauvinist as long as it has good pr.

Your comments here are soaked in US chauvinism.

Cuba is already sovereign. It does not need to be “invited” into the empire that has spent over 60 years trying to strangle it. Treating another nation as a potential US “state” or “test lab” is naked colonial thinking.

Also calling the islands places for “A/B testing” social policy is grotesque. You’re talking about real people, not sandbox populations. Cuba already guarantees universal healthcare, free education at all levels, housing rights, and food subsidies despite being under one of the longest economic sieges in modern history. The US can’t even provide those basics to its own working class.

The blockade isn’t some abstract policy disagreement. It blocks fuel, medicine, banking access, shipping insurance, medical equipment, and even disaster relief. It’s collective punishment imposed by the United States. Every year almost the entire world votes at the UN to end it. Washington ignores them.

To add to this Puerto Rico is not some inspiring example of US “opportunity.” Puerto Rico is a US colony with no voting representation in Congress, crushed by debt, austerity, and privatization imposed by Washington. If that’s your model, it’s an indictment of your beliefs.

And finally Cuba does not need Amerikkkans to teach it socialism. Cuba built a functioning public health system, biotech sector, disaster response model, and mass literacy campaign while under siege something the US ruling class hasn’t even properly accomplished for its own despite ruling most of the world with a bloodied iron fist.

If you actually cared about Cubans, you’d drop the annexation fantasies. Your grotesque idea of “testing grounds.” and ridiculous imperial “offers.”

Yeah I probably should have specified last natural famine. Even then kulaks worsened it beyond what it should have been through burning crops and slaughtering livestock.

The “holodomor” is Nazi Banderite propaganda. There was a famine in an area that was prone to famine for centuries prior. It was not targeted at Ukraine, it also affected Kazakhstan and western Russia. It was also the last time they had a famine.

1040 weeks is still technically a number of weeks.

Not to be mean, but I think you’re approaching this from a place of pretty immense privilege, where it’s possible to sidestep the fact that the “stability” and social care you’re talking about are materially predicated on the largest, most advanced, and most comprehensive immiseration machine in human history, currently headed by the US and enforced by its hunting dogs.

I understand what you’re saying about intent, but I think you’re putting far too much weight on intent and far too little on material outcomes. From the perspective of people in the periphery, whether harm is done out of malice, fear, or ignorance doesn’t change the harm itself. The status quo imposed by the imperial core is anything but neutral; it is actively sustained through extraction, coercion, and violence, regardless of how polite or well-meaning its defenders may be.

The claim that Liberal voters “aren’t thinking about” neocolonialism doesn’t really mitigate anything. Apathy and ignorance aren’t accidental flaws of the system, they’re systematically reinforced. Liberal politics trains people to narrow their moral horizon to national borders and to treat global suffering as unfortunate but external. Wanting stability at home while refusing to interrogate how that stability is financed is still a political choice, even if it feels passive or unavoidable.

I’m about to make an inflammatory comparison, and before it’s taken the wrong way I want to be clear that I’m not calling you, or Liberal voters, Nazis of any kind.

What I’m pointing to is a similar moral logic to the “clean Wehrmacht,” but applied to liberalism: the idea that all the real harm belongs to the obvious villains, while those who uphold the same system in a more moderate, respectable way are merely ignorant, apolitical, or trying their best. That framing launders responsibility. It treats liberal participation as an unfortunate accident rather than a core function.

From the standpoint of those who live with the consequences of your stability, calling it “misguided but not bad” reads as a refusal to take structural violence seriously.

I am talking about how the status quo of the entirety of the imperial core is built on and sustained by the pillaging and superxploitation of the periphery through imperialism and neocolonialism.

The status quo is bad if you view us of the periphery as equal humans whose suffering matters the same as you.

You have read nothing I wrote. You twisted to talking about China and Canada when that was never the topic. You are either a complete fool or have been arguing in bad faith from the beginning (most likely a bit from a and a bit from b) I hope you reflect and better yourself in the future.

What made you think I was Canadian? I never claimed to be? What the fuck are you talking about? I’m Chinese in China all my life. I would never want to be a white settler colonist American dog Canadian. Your country is founded on war crimes and genocide. After world war 2 Canada accepted anyone who had an SS tattoo. Canada like America is a Nazi state who perpetuate the largest immiseration machine in human history on the global south 24/7. I will never stop saying death to Amerikkka, death to Kkklanada, death to the imperial core until my brother’s and sisters of the global South are emancipated and liberated from the brutal imperial and neocolonial machine. You can be offended by that but know that your offense comes from your immense privilege, all your treats your “social democracy” is funded and built upon the mass pillaging of the global south and extraction of superprofits. Read a book and stop being such an arrogant insufferable privileged liberal. You know nothing of our struggles, nothing of our beliefs, nothing of our lives and you don’t want to know because it’s easier to just wallow in centrism providing endless “critique” with no action or solutions.

All the western aligned world leaders, big money, big tech. All colors and sizes - every religion welcomed and agreed to work together!

Almost like the bourgeoisie all have a common interest in repressing the working class outside of any window dressing disagreements they may have. Also explains the fear and hatred of communism and communist leaders in discussions in the files.

The results will be published by the same party that holds them imprisoned

That’s how being arrested works. The state detains you Investigates and then you are put on trial. What is your point with this?

More vibes based analysis from one so wise. Fighting the Nazis was good but fighting the order set up by the imperial power the Nazis modelled themselves after is bad. You are a privileged liberal who only cares about what directly affects you and don’t care about the rest of us. The global south is being exploited on a scale that would give Hitler wet dreams and your response to people supporting them fighting back is “you’re just as bad as the exploiters if you fight back”. It’s infantile and plainly ridiculous. Grow up. Do some reading, go visit the global south and talk to people and witness the exploitation you are inherently ok with as you condemn resistance.

long history of military involvement

Long history of imperial conquest but also fought the Nazis so all the rest of it is ok.

imperialism

You clearly don’t know what this word means.

you and your friends get to decide who is right and who is wrong

We don’t decide anything. It has already been decided when they supported genocide imperialism and colonialism. No one forced them to.

What part of fighting on the side of the exploited against their exploiters is always just did you not get?

Might doesn’t prove anything. Violence is unfortunately the only language that colonialist and imperialists understand as has already been proven by history.

In your mind was it wrong to use violence on the Nazis? You seem awfully pro status quo which is built on the rape, murder pillaging and mass exploitation of Billions for the comfort of a few millions and the mass excesses of a few thousand.

Edit: what no material, class, dialectical, historical or any analysis beyond vibes does to someone. Pure brain worms.

Yes fighting on the side of the exploited against their exploiter is morally just in all instances. It’s easy for you to talk shit from your cushy position in the imperial core. I hope you reflect in the future on the immense privilege you have thanks to the mass immiseration of the global south and do better.

They were arrested on charges of 诬告陷害罪 and 非法经营罪 so maybe instead of presuming a nefarious plot it would make more sense to hold back with 不评价，等调查结果.

If you want “whataboutism” I can do that too by pointing out every western aligned government had deep ties to the Epstein pedophile cabal and they all feared and hated China.

So maybe you have bigger issues you should be dealing with. Worry about the sword through your neck before the one hanging on China’s wall.

A coup is when corrupt officials are investigated and punished.