I can get it being back by the 32nd century, but I still wonder why Nova Squadron (or any elite academy group beyond a simple honors society) came back in Prodigy relatively shortly after:

1. The Locarno incidents
2. That time Red Squad tried to take over THE ENTIRE FREAKIN’ FEDERATION.

I felt better once they got out the prisons; the ship aesthetics have some generic sci-fi aesthetic to them, but having the reds in them makes it feel overall much brighter and Trek-y. Honestly, even though it’s not as bright as TNG, just being able to actually see scenes was nice.

Late gen Z, generally modern indie centric tastes; there might be a deeper genre name than that, but that’s what I can think of off the top of my head. Also has some 70s-90s stuff, including picking up a few of my favorite They Might Be Giants songs, mostly Lincoln-era stuff.

I don’t know.

If anything, me and my younger sibling were actively annoyed by a lot of the show’s music choices, and modern show music in general. In both this show and recent Stranger Things seasons, they put music in every single moment, even moments that should be silent.

But what about Lower Decks volume 2?

Or yt-dlp.

I don’t think they’re doing so much of a TOS reboot as a TOS continuation with some retconning and reusing some SNW sets and cast.

I’ve heard it floated around that it would depict the start of Kirk’s mission, which TOS didn’t depict, showing the crew already relatively comfortable with the ship. Personally, I’d like them to something of a year 4/5 that takes place either during or after TAS. As I mention elsewhere in this thread, I think “Yesteryear” would be an awesome remake; it could be pulled off in one 50 minute episode (already double TAS length), but I think it would be awesome to extend it to a two parter.

Not sure I’d want a full TOS reboot, but I think a few more retcons wouldn’t hurt so long as they’re in the overall spirit of Trek.

What I’ve mentioned before that I think would be interesting to see is a remake of the TAS episode Yesteryear. Most TAS stories are probably best left as such, or else they would lose their campy charm, but I think Yesteryear could benefit, especially from the dramatic storytelling recent live action Trek has focused on. We could get so much good Vulcan lore out of it, and I’d hope they could do awesome set and costume design.

In my ideal episode, it’s still weeks to months until Sarek takes in Burnham; I feel like otherwise, Spock wouldn’t have to be going back in time to save himself.

To be fair, 5 seasons has become a miracle for any scripted television to attain, period. Heck, even 3 is lucky these days.

Also, I have a feeling they’ve known 5 seasons was the length for a while and have written the ending in a way that allows them to end the show largely on their own terms.

I wish Lemmy had a way to distinguish between disliking the news and shooting the messenger.

Eh, the Pegasus tattoo doesn’t look great; half of it is missing. Must be embedded in the skin or something…

Me waiting for Star Trek Lower Decks Volume 2, or at least a repressing of volume 1:

They did do something with the butt bugs in the IDW comics recently…

It’s nice that they still put out Trek physical media.

It’s just really weird that SNW stuff seem to be the franchise’s only 4K Blu-Ray releases (besides film remasters and Kelvin timeline, of course) - everything else with a decent resolution has only been released in 1080p. Like, objectively, I can hardly complain about 1080p, and any more than that for LD and PRO is probably pointless, but it’s really weird that PIC and DIS don’t have it for the seasons that were filmed for 4K.

Also, if they’re not going to renew PRO, can they at least give it the dignity of a complete series set, or at the very least a season 1 Blu-Ray so I don’t have to buy episodes 1-10 and 11-20 separately?!

Yeh, perhaps it’s one of those things Star Trek should leave unanswered, like they should have done with Breen. The Breen are supposed to be a meme!

“Move Along Home” is a masterpiece; it’s the kind of bad episode that’s really fun to watch.

But yeh, I think it’s really stupid to dismiss a show based on its first season.

I just dont like any of the characters

Not even Saru? 😢

To be fair, SNW only gets a 10 episode season, so based on ratio, 1 silly episode of SNW is equal to ~2.5 episodes of TNG; it doesn’t take a lot of silly episodes to make it seem like a huge amount of silly in SNW.

I know we probably can’t go back to 25 episode seasons because those were always very taxing to work on, but I think 15 episodes is a good compromise. I think SNW would have really benefited from a season of about that length; even 12 episodes would be nice.

Heck, as convoluted as Discovery could get, from what I watched of the show (up to a few episodes into S4), it somewhat benefited from a longer season in the sense we had plenty of time for multi-episode plots, which are harder to develop in a 10 episode season balancing episodic and linear storytelling. However, I don’t think they used that time the most effectively, as season 3 often felt like death by subplots - the episode would take on so many subplots that, although each of them individually may have been good ideas, none of them ended up being particularly well-executed. It’s especially weird because they didn’t really need to do that; there was more than enough episodes to, say, have one subplot as an A plot and another as a B plot, then continue the B plot next episode as an A plot and have another B plot.

Honestly, I think what we have yet to truly see in Star Trek is someone in Starfleet who saves the day but ultimately cannot be absolved of their wrongdoing and cannot avoid the consequences if they’re not going to take the necessary steps for redemption - doing one important thing does not give you the moral license to do whatever you want.

They got close in TNG:”Ethics”, but ultimately the only “discipline” Russell gets is getting yelled at by Dr. Crusher - no investigations or anything.

I’d almost want to have an allegory for how we should deal with sexual harassment in the sciences, basically showing the senior staff handling the situation correctly and doing what should have been done with creeps like Richard Feynman, and maybe examining the negative tropes of past Trek. Then again, TNG has so many clumsy sexual harassment episodes that I’m worried it’d be hard to do the issue justice.

Although I’ve never watched Black Mirror, from what I’ve heard of the episode, maybe USS Callister did better than Star Trek ever could on this matter.

To be fair, Burnham’s supposed to be a bit immature and make questionable choices, which in itself is really annoying to a lot of people, but a product of the plot, and another episode or two and it might might sense.

Also, like @[email protected], I am a little confused by the “xenophobic military propaganda” bit. Maybe it’s that you haven’t watched the 2nd episode yet, but without spoiling much, Burnham’s somewhat xenophobic actions go pretty horrifically wrong the next episode and basically cause much of the season’s plot. Also, the Klingons aren’t entirely villains throughout the season and show.