no, they steal everything.

why do we keep letting them steal

‘free speech’ has always been about the freedom of the oppressed to fight upwards against their oppressor with language - but now they stole it & trying to make it mean their freedom to oppress minorities.

same for ‘woke’ - it used to mean basic human decency, once again they stole it & warped it’s meaning by pretending they’re the victims and it’s preventing their freedom (ie. their freedom to be a bigot).

same for ‘political correctness’, which was originally a criticism of using fake concern over moral issues for political agenda (sounds familiar), now warped beyond use.

swastika - used for THOUSANDS of years before the fucking nazis came along & stole it. now the cultures it actually belongs to get hate for practicing their ancient beliefs.

pepe and many others are a long list of things they steal and ruin.

why do we keep letting them steal?

accept that this is the part of the animal kingdom you’ve been born into. we ALL have these types of interactions so noone can really judge anyone for it.

therefore just chuckle about it, and shrug it off.

Exactly!

Thanks for reading :) Realised i was going on a bit of a rant, but thought why not keep going lol

good points on the training order!

i was mostly thinking of intentionally introduced stochastic processes during training, eg. quantisation noise which is pretty broadband when uncorrelated, and even correlated from real-world datasets will inevitably contain non-determinism, though some contraints re. language “rules” could possibly shape that in interesting ways for LLMs.

and especially the use of stochastic functions for convergence & stochastic rounding in quantisation etc. not to mention intentionally introduced randomisation in training set augmentation. so i think for most purposes, and with few exceptions they are mathematically definable as stochastic processes.

where that overlaps with true theoretical determinism certainly becomes fuzzy without an exact context. afaict most kernel backed random seeds on x86 since 2015 with the RDSEED instruction, will have an asynchronous thermal noise based NIST 800-90B approved entropy source within the silicon and a NIST 800-90C Non-deterministic Random Bit Generator (NRBG).

on other more probable architectures (GPU/TPU) I think that is going to be alot rarer and from a cryptographic perspective hardware implementations of even stochastic rounding are going to be a deterministic circuit under the hood for a while yet.

but given the combination of overwhelming complexity, trade secrets and classical high entropy sources, I think most serious attempts at formal proofs would have to resign to stochastic terms in their formulation for some time yet.

there may be some very specific and non-general exceptions, and i do believe this is going to change in the future as both extremes (highly formal AI models, and non-deterministic hardware backed instructions) are further developed. and ofc overcoming the computational resource hurdles for training could lead to relaxing some of the current practical requirements for stochastic processes during training.

this is ofc only afaict, i don’t work in LLM field.

some people label themselves christian and feel that label is a free pass for venomous bigotry. my feeling is that’s perhaps a bit un-christ-like, actually.

ignoring the hate-brigade, lemmy users are probably a bit more tech savvy on average.

and i think many people who know how “AI” works under the hood are frustrated because, unlike most of it’s loud proponents, they have real-world understanding what it actually is.

and they’re tired of being told they “don’t get it”, by people who actually don’t get it. but instead they’re the ones being drowned out by the hype train.

and the thing fueling the hype train are dishonest greedy people, eager to over-extend the grift at the expense of responsible and well engineered “AI”.

but, and this is the real crux of it, keeping the amazing true potential of “AI” technology in the hands of the rich & powerful. rather than using it to liberate society.

agreed, not a single chance i’m pre-ordering

LLMs could be made deterministic

Good reminder that LLM output could be made deterministic!

Though correct me if I’m wrong, their training is, with few exceptions, very much going to be stochastic? Ofc it’s not an actual requirement, but under real world efficiency & resource constraints, it’s very very often going to be stochastic?

Personally, I’m not sure I’d argue automation can’t be stochastic. But either way, OP asks a good question for us to ponder! The short answer imo: it depends what you mean by “automation” :)

sound logic right here.

that said the gameplay demos today weren’t terrible

If I identify as a vegan but I like to eat meat with every meal, am I really a vegan?

/thread

thanks i got that far ;)

but what is it about eg.

• the way they talk about it?
• the price?
• the leaks?

etc that makes you think its bad news?

the previous games i’m 100% with you, 2042 was beyond embarrassing. the publisher, nothing need be said lol. the dev cycle i’m going to assume is suspciously fast?

another former fan here, could you pls expand a bit on what you’re feeling with these points and what it means? i don’t know enough about each of them to realise what you meant?

yes people come from reddit because it was ruined by corporate bs and immediately start simping hard for corporate propaganda, bogging down quality discussion

and it’s becoming the majority now, so just like reddit, you have to scroll so much further down a thread before the good info is found.

in other words: welcome redditors, pls leave the reddit bs at the door on your way in.

love this concept. ever found anything interesting?

so many classics listed already, some others…

• the one where a civillisation downloads their lives into picard. whole ep you’re wondering wtf is with picard this is slow as he lives some dudes life, then the reveal is amazing it’s so full of positivity and warmth - appropriately titled “the inner light”. hats off for capturing positivity so well onscreen (for some reason an elusive skill)

• when picard defends data’s rights as a sentient being