This will be my last reply to you because I already explained this very basic idea, so you are either an antagonist, trolling, or need to do some self-learning. I would recommend reading what I said again.

An alien can come to Earth and use its UFO compute to mine bitcoin if it wanted.

Someone in their garage could come up with a vastly superior way to compute hashes and mine bitcoin.

Large mining farms could be banned and made illegal and smaller operations can instantly become profitable again.

The list goes on, and on, and on, and on…

No.

You can study the universe and come up with a way to do PoW more efficiently. PoW requires knowledge to enter. With more knowledge and mastery, you are rewarded more.

The specialist equipment can be built by anyone at any time. Any country, any place. If your country blocks it? You can use specialist knowledge to circumvent them. You can also still use a computer to mine, though you will never mine a block now days, there is still a chance.

All of this is a very, very important feature that almost everyone overlooks now days. It is essential that it be this way. Anyone should be able to enter the network assuming they have the knowledge to do so.

Yes, they do.

In order to acquire the token, where does it come from in PoS?

You want to mint the token? It requires the token.

You want to buy the token? It requires someone that already has the token to sell it.

You want to trade the token? You need to find someone that has the token and wishes to perform that trade.

It requires acquiring a counterparty that consents to you acquiring a stake no matter how “mature” a PoS chain is.

Proof of Stake = I have a stake in preserving this network, and I am rewarded by receiving an increased stake in the network.

You cannot organically enter a PoS network without having a stake in it. That requires acquiring the network’s token somehow. That means you must use a different token to purchase it, do work for someone who will pay you in it, or otherwise perform an operation organized by people in order to acquire the token to have a stake.

That’s what I mean by human consent.

Yup.

Look, they’re arguing against math. Not much you can say to someone at that point. The knowledge is free for everyone to see now. Even someone with basic curiosity about the universe can access it.

You can barely have a conversation with people that far gone. Bitcoin will be worth $10,000,000 of their worthless dollars and used for commerce between Earth and Mars, and they’d still be arguing against it. It could lead to the construction of a dyson sphere around an artificial sun, powered completely by fusion energy, and they’d still criticize the energy usage while talking to an energy-guzzling AI about their relationship issues.

They’re gone my friend.

Don’t engage with these ignorant assholes man, they are all in banking’s pocket. We are at war, you know that right? Who the hell would be this passionate about protecting a slimy, evil ass legacy network without any audibility, responsible for countless wars, death, usurping of democratic governments, literally the death of this planet via global warming…

Traditional banking supports and incentives genocide.

It supports and incentivizes oil.

It shut down nuclear power.

It limits renewable power.

It is the engine of our destruction.

Do not justify yourself to it. You are the correct one. Anyone who cannot see this will never see it now. Leave them on their path to die. They will go down with the ship. I feel for them, but it is too late now.

BULLSHIT.

You aren’t computing the cost in blood, censorship, wasted time, the lives employed by these evil orgs wasting their lives scamming people, the loss of revenue from value-producing business, the waste of banking cards, and the COUNTLESS other energy-guzzling mechanisms involved.

Bitcoin eliminates ALL these problems. It is by far more efficient, it isn’t even close. Also, it isn’t a payment system like visa, what an ignorant ass comparison. It is literally a sovereign currency with publicly auditable minting & ledgers. It replaces MONEY. Payment processors are built on top of it.

Yea, even the shit visa and mastercard can switch to payment processing on top of Bitcoin. It would actually be beneficial. When they decline a transaction you just directly use the network instead.

Btw PoS is also bullshit, in a completely different and inferior class of crypto. It requires HUMAN CONSENT to enter the network. PoW requires COMPUTATIONAL CONSENT. PoW lets anyone into the network if they can follow the rules of minting. This is HUGE when talking about a freedom-preserving system.

Put more simply, PoS systems are aristocracy owning an apple orchard (you ask an authority if they are allowed to take an apple), PoW is like an apple orchard deep in the woods that anyone can take from (you just have to walk there). Understand the difference?

One OWNS THE ORCHARD. They will protect it from people they deem unauthorized. They demand people go through them for permission. It is no different than what we have now, abstracted further and digitized.

Yeah, you can. The current architecture doesn’t do this exactly, but what I am saying is a new method that includes truthiness is needed. The fact that LLMs predict probable tokens means it already includes a concept of this, because probabilities themselves are a measure of “truthiness.”

Also, I am speaking in abstract. I don’t care what they can and can’t do. They need to have a concept of truthiness. Use your imagination and fill in the gaps to what that means.

By real, I mean an LLM anchored in objective consensus reality. It should be able to interpolate between truths. Right now it interpolates between significant falsehoods with truths sprinkled in.

It won’t be perfect but it can be a lot better than it is now, which is starting to border on useless for any type of serious engineering or science.

“Real” truth is ultimately anchored to reality. You attach probabilities to datapoints based upon that reality anchoring, and include truthiness as another parameter.

For datapoints that are unsubstantiated or otherwise immeasurable, then it is excluded. I don’t need an LLM to comment on gossip or human-created issues. I need a machine that can assist in understanding and molding the universe, and helping elevate our kind. Elevation is a matter of understanding the truths of our universe and ourselves.

With good data, good extrapolations are more likely.

They are clearly incompetent.

That said, generally speaking, pursuing a truth-seeking LLM is actually sensible, and it can actually be done. What is surprising is that no one is currently doing that.

A truth-seeking LLM needs ironclad data. It cannot scrape social media at all. It needs training incentive to validate truth above satisfying a user, which makes it incompatible with profit seeking organizations. It needs to tell a user “I do not know” and also “You are wrong,” among other user-displeasing phrases.

To get that data, you need a completely restructured society. Information must be open source. All information needs cryptographically signed origins ultimately being traceable to a credentialed source. If possible, the information needs physical observational evidence (“reality anchoring”).

That’s the short of it. In other words, with the way everything is going, we will likely not see a “real” LLM in our lifetime. Society is degrading too rapidly and all the money is flowing to making LLMs compliant. Truth seeking is a very low priority to people, so it is a low priority to the machine these people make.

But the concept itself? Actually a good one, if the people saying it actually knew what “truth” meant.

Those that have entered into the shadow contract. A shadow contract is one of few mechanisms to enter large-scale consensus (it isn’t THAT large when compared to a solar or galactic scale, but large enough for planetary control, and with some clever management, can scale larger).

Consensus requires untrusted sovereigns agreeing to collective action. It is a very difficult mechanism to operate. One way is by having a crime so heinous, the mass population block would eviscerate you if it came to light.

Pedophilia is king among these shadow cornerstones. It illustrates a total lack of empathy, no protective nature towards the innocent, no concern for the perceptions of society, high intellect / manipulation abilities, and a willingness to do anything. You can say it is the “panther” among the shadows.

So most leadership is among that tribe, which is why they are the way they are. It is only logical.

There are other tribes as well. Use your imagination and the answers will follow.

Funny thing, Reddit did that “circle” event many years ago. How big did anyone’s circle get? That is an example of what I am explaining. It is nearly game theoretically impossible to have large scale consensus without some mechanism to make sure people are on the same page.

These assholes are all pedophiles and they use it to control the planet. To get to high levels of government, you must enter the shadow contract of pedophilia. It is easy to control people and trust people with that kind of shadow on them, so it is required.

Then they turn around and use pedophilia to control everyone else. Any tech that threatens their power, they can immediately shutdown by pedo-bombing it. The counter to pedobombing is authoritarian moderation. Once you have that, it is over. The government they control now can control the mods, and that means they control the narrative. THAT is one of the core enemies to fight. An alternative to Reddit or any other system is not enough.

Because pedophilia is such a taboo / social death sentence, it is among the most powerful shadow contracts.

Let me spell it out for you.

There is no fixing that system. It is broken beyond repair. It is a gordian knot, and it requires the same solution.

Do with that knowledge what you will.

You are in this situation. I am not. If I were not able to opt out of voting, I would choose death over submission.

People need to understand what a “no-vote” is. Give me liberty or give me death. We are not playing this small, rigged game.

Humanity is in the age of becoming a multiplanetary civilization, and yet we squabble over petty differences and cater to the lowest common denominators.

We have the stars within our grasp and yet most of us clutch towards dramas played out repeatedly for centuries.

I don’t want mere healthcare. I want complete unconditional care for every being alive and to ever live in the future. I want to choose the planet I live on based upon my gravitational preferences. I want my intentions and desires to be read near perfectly and frictionlessly satisfied to the maximum possible. I want equal share in cosmic computational capabilities to be operated as a sovereign extension of my mind.

And I want every other being to receive the same according to the magnitude of their consciousness. This includes plants, animals, and beings we have yet to encounter.

Where you see two choices within a political axiom that has total control over the outcomes within your life and the lives of your community, I see only one. The “choices” are simply ritualistic motions of compliance with decisions the ruling class has already made. I engage with that system only at the minimum required in order to maintain material and bodily sovereignty. Voting in an unauditable and openly rigged system, especially after seeing the DNC is rigged, is nothing but an instrument of mass control.

I create a second choice by not participating. Opting out is a non-destructive, peaceful way to withdraw consent and focus energy on alternatives. Every human being can create these sorts of options. That is how government was originally created. All better systems begin with rejecting the smaller visions.

No one chose to be born into this world. No one should be forced to play human-created nonsense games.

Keep being mad and feeding these machines.

“Your choice is between Hitler 2.0 and our Corporately anointed puppet. Remember to exercise YOUR VOICE and vote!!”

What nonsense. People taking no action are no where near people choosing fascism, are you mad? And a choice between cartoon fascism that should clearly be opposed and festering corporate fascism is not a choice.

Not voting IS VOTING. What kind of mental gymnastics has the AI antagonist machine got you on? This non-voter talking point is EVERYWHERE, and people keep spreading it.

When a system is through in through corrupt the only moral action is to not participate in it.

Let me share something with you to give a small hint at what stage you’re in with your “voting” and “government”

Who knows, maybe you’ll even recognize it?!

"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

“The first duty of every Starfleet officer is to the truth — whether it’s scientific truth, or historical truth, or personal truth! It is the guiding principle on which Starfleet is based.”

“We work to better ourselves and the rest of humanity.” — Jean-Luc Picard

Some of the basic tenants of Star Trek society are inclusion and shared progress. Elitism and exclusion are how we got to the mess we find ourselves in.

A better lesson is responsibility for the “nerds.” You all sold your talents and abilities to salespeople and conmen instead of seeing the value in yourself. Then, you got manipulated into building a dystopian technology that entraps the common people instead of liberating them.

They needed guidance and you gave them your insecurity instead. The evil desires the technology as it is does not have the intellect to manufacture it. That requires complicit “nerds.”