Don’t they have voting machines every year at DEFCON?
I feel like this is already been litigated.
Source article for anyone wanting the original: https://www.propublica.org/article/cisa-election-security-donald-trump
Independent testing of voting machines and open sourcing the vulnerabilities in order to get them patched, is a good idea.
Unfortunately, we all know what the Trump Regime actually intends to do: Keep the vulnerabilities in their pocket, and use them to secure “victories”.
Also to discredit and/or try to nullify a not-so-favorable election outcome afterwards.
Pillow magnate guy already got the inner workings of all the voting machines in 2020 and they reverse engineered them all from the swing states, likely all the red states too. GA I think, MI, CO, AZ, and so forth.
It’s just one facet of their plans to rig elections (moreso.)
I mean I work for elections and I see how it works inside too. Doesn’t mean every poll worker is rigging shit.
It’s totally fine though. Since no one in America has the balls to do anything about it- it’s legal.
The land of the questionably free and not so often brave.
The land of the once free and somewhat brave, but it was quite a lag time ago.
Careful, they LOVE to get really fucking defensive and shitty about their cowardice.
They’re the elephant that was tied to a stake as a baby
They have accepted their fate and are resigned to being fucked over
So they hate the people around them, rather than the cunts who put in the stake
Oh I know too well.
Can’t wait for stories like this to suddenly just disappear in November when Republicans somehow - miraculously! - barely squeek out enough votes to secure key races at the very las second.
Lol… With this administration? They’ll probably just report that they recieved 10x whatever the other party gets and brag about how big America must be to get more votes than citizens.
Read between the lines
And somehow, the polls will all be wrong and we’ll all scratch our heads how that happened.
Must be because Republicans don’t answer pollsters! 🙃
This is an inherent flaw of digital voting machines. One has to trust their integrity which only can be confirmed by a few specialists. By design, that is a lot simpler to undermine than a system that relies on a huge number of people where almost anyone who wants to is capable of taking part in securing the integrity of the vote.
No self respecting democracy should use them.
Hey its 2026! just ask AI who should win based on popular vibe, and be done with.
We call it vibe voting
And, as a bonus, the old school method has a tremendously low error rate.
I remember an article in a renowned computer mag about 20 years ago measuring error rates. The newest and greatest voting machine, at the time, still had way worse error rates than hand counting. Never mind everything that was around before. Maybe the most modern systems can achieve the same error rates as hand counting, dunno, haven’t been keeping up.
I was absolutely floored with how bad the error rates of lever operated mechanical machines used to be. How anyone accepted those anywhere near a democracy was beyond me.
Remember tulsi was tasked with testing the machines before she resigned.
Of course they hacked voting machines to audit their security. Apart from that, voting machines can’t fulfill the transparency requirements of democratic elections on principle. So just not using them would be better anyway.
Exactly what we did in the Netherlands. Our “CIA”, the AIVD, researched the machines and found them susceptible to magnetic “eavesdropping” and therefore not compliant to our voting law. The Netherlands stopped using them since 2009. Source, dutch
Wtf
As much as I would want to cry foul, this sound like a typical red team exercise.
Voting machines are vulnerable just like any other machine, and have been proven time and time again that they’re not particularly difficult to hack. DEF CON has been doing it for almost ten years at this point. First time in 2017, with lots of articles covering it. The year after even TIME reported about how an 11 year old did it. In 2024 they got some attention again due to Trump going for second term. But I don’t think much came of it…
The US is a flawed democracy, and has been on a steady decline for years.
funny how the machines are solelyused in only republican areas. in the west its all paper ballots. wether thats from mail in or in person.
I worry that comments like this can degrade the confidence in the system.
States run their own elections and they’re usually administered at the county level. I can’t speak for any other county but the way we do elections here are legit. This system is audited and administered by bipartisan teams. During elections I work with people from different parties and facilitate a system to ensure our voting process maintains integrity.
If you don’t know how elections are administered where you live I encourage you to take an interest and get involved. We all have a duty here to oversee that we are administering elections with integrity.
The system is made up of many components, and voting machines are but one part. Even though they might be hackable in various ways, there are much more efficient ways these days to sway an election. The Cambridge Analytics scandal proved one efficient way, while there’s now a growing belief that whoever controls the social media algorithm effectively controls public opinion.
And don’t get me started on the two-party-system in the US…So no need to hack the machines, really. The system is flawed/corrupt elsewhere more severely.
I’m sorry to say this to you. It wasn’t difficult to make a voting machine in 2011. What we have are fraud machines. It’s just politically impossible to make a secure voting machine, even though it’s technically trivial.
Most democracies do not use voting machines because it’s impossible to trust anyone with creating and maintaining it.
If there is a way to change the vote tallies, then clever people will use it to enrich themselves.
The only way to circumvent most cheating is by paper ballots recounted manually in front of representatives of all candidates: recounted as many times as asked; and the ballots must be kept in public view until a winner is declared.
Putting the ballots into any other device negates some or all of the above.
And I would only have to say this in American political posts. But Americans are married to voting in ways that cannot be verified, except in some states. So most likely what’s seen as common sense in most of the world is either ignored or viewed with suspicion here.
Ask any student in the uk though; and I’m just echoing what has been taught in school to young children
thats why red states are solely using it as the majority, they know it is rigged to favor them.
The smoking gun for me is how much they’ve been screaming about others cheating. They cheated.
Narcissists always self report.
Normally vulnerability testing would be a good thing, but in this case I think it’s safe to assume the worst motivations for it.
It’s the old projection thing again.
Republicans: the Dems hacked voting machines and stole the election! Lock them up!
Also Republicans: we hacked a voting machine so we can steal the election.
Pssst… They did it in 2016, and 2024. The only reason 2020 didn’t work was the massive amount of mail in ballots. Vlad helped, and now they are just making extra sure their cheats worked.
also covid put a wrench in things, that the conservatives couldnt freely go about in polling areas to rig it.
https://www.dcreport.org/2020/12/19/mitch-mcconnells-re-election-the-numbers-dont-add-up/
To be clear, I don’t necessary “believe” Republican fraud occurred. I do think there were enough statistical anomalies to warrant investigation, and that that didn’t happen because Trump put the Democrats fully in defensive mode by distracting them with spurious investigations elsewhere.
Conservatives: 😤
The bulk of the US: 😪
The administration wanted a voting machine hacked, but DOGE had already fired the experts capable of doing it. Apparently the one thing stopping a potential election conspiracy was Elon Musk’s ability to make government incompetent at absolutely everything. Task failed successfully.
They just went private
Or so þe Trumpers would have you believe.
Why do these people with fucked up keyboards persist in the fediverse
They think it helps prevent their comments from being used by LLMs or “poisons” them.
It should be obvious why that would never had been a thing from day one. But now, ironically, their use of it reinforces “þ” as a substitute so it’s prob been years since it’s needed to be in pre-training code too.
It’s quite literally a tinfoil hat.
They might just be a fan of the letter thorn (þ):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJxKyh9e5_A
https://www.tiktok.com/@robwords/video/6925843027462278406?lang=en
A desire and need for more vodka
I think people just like to bitch about þorn. You know what it says, so what’s þe issue?
þere’s so much þorn on þe Internet þese days, it might be out of control.
