The developers who created Lemmy are leftists, and they run the lemmy.ml instance. The lemmy.ml (.ml is for Mali, btw) domain was allegedly chosen because ML can also stand for Marxist-Leninist.
I’m not an expert on the subject, but lemmy.ml users are known for being tankies. People don’t like that.
However, some of you whipper snappers don’t know that those of us with really old accounts joined back when lemmy.ml was the most popular instance. I just like FOSS things.
Edit: added “allegedly”
I’m on ML because it is the dev’s instance, that’s it. Also, I dislike how .world is run.
Just don’t post anything anti China or Russia and you’ll be fine.
Lemm.ee we tell you about my instance then… :)
Tankies aren’t real leftists. They’re morons who honor authority over freedom to the point they’ll suck off authoritarians from history. Basically (very, very basically), they’re the authoritarian “left”… as much as anyone who is rightly left honors undue authority…
The problem is that y’all believe, that acknowledging many of the claims about those countries to be CIA hoaxes, is also somehow a declaration of approval of those countries policies.
You may not like those countries, but you’re taking that to mean you have to personally adopt the position of defending the bullshit lies you’ve been told about them.
No, it’s really not that way, unless you’re a guilt-by-association simplifying dolt. One can be a communist and not like how China is ran nor have to defend it.
In the same vein, one can criticize the actual way China is ran, rather than running with every western lie you’re told about China.
.world got big mad that .ml users pointed out the genocide was a genocide and America was helping it
This is a perfect example to my earlier point that the majority of people whining about .world go there to stir the pot, violate the rules, get their shit removed, and then misinform the reasons.
Modlog for reference.
.world goes to .ml to break the rules: “Help help, they’re censoring me! I only said that my government was objectively good in the world!”
.ml goes to .world to break the rules: “You’re just steering the pot, shut up loser.”
Another victim shows up to cry about being banned for following the rules of lemmy.world and its communities! Clearly they can’t be lying, can they?
Let’s see….
A debate troll by definition! Sooner or later, there might be an exception to the rule- but this one is not one of them.
(Note how they accused me of going to .ml and complaining, where I have never posted or commented once in there: yet their modlog shows their constant complaining and getting removed.)
It’s like they’re begging to be called out.
Oh hey you unblocked me, neat. Can’t wait until you whine some more and claim the moral high ground.
No need to claim what’s rightfully mine. And that you got called out by- and are now butthurt because of your own modlog isn’t really something I’m concerned with.
Actually, I’m just glad to have helped.
And I’ll have no issue blocking you if you start whining again. Adults generally do that when children get cranky.
Ok buddy genocider, you go be “civil” to Nazis lol
Btw, that “pictures of dead babies” was a Japanese soldier bayoneting a Chinese infant as part of a literal baby murdering contest in the invasion of Nanking, in response to someone trying to pretend Japan was the victim of WW2.
You can ignore rhoeri, they’re a smug moron.
Okay buddy historian.
It’s not WWII anymore. And from where I stand, your false equivalence debate trolling got rightfully shut down.
You’re a known troll. And a perfect example of my point. Thanks for making it easier for me.
Lol, “known troll” and “disagrees with me, white ‘moderate’” are such similar phrases, aren’t they?
I think the ghost of the GOAT is right as always.
As we all know, trolls are anyone who disagree with you, and must be banned from the community.
Wow… two modlog proven trolls, complaining about having been subjected to the rules of a community. Imagine that!
It’s like you two are crawling over one another to see who can better make my point for me. I’m absolutely LOVING the competish, guy!
you two keep at it!
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I’ll award a winner when I finish my popcorn. Or I’ll just forget about both of you within 5 minutes.
A few select .world users make a big fuss out of nothing in order to keep people signing up to their centralized instance.
A “big fuss” with a whole lot of documentation:
From censorship, bans and bias towards their “in crowd”:
https://lemmy.world/post/27674360
https://lemmy.world/post/27674117
https://lemmy.world/post/27673934
https://lemmy.world/post/27673724
https://lemmy.world/post/27577337
https://lemmy.world/post/27378634
https://lemmy.world/post/27346630
https://lemmy.world/post/27341283
https://lemmy.world/post/27288224
https://lemmy.world/post/27156418
https://lemmy.world/post/27054157
https://lemmy.world/post/27008261
To altering headlines and permitting known propaganda outlets:
https://lemmy.world/post/27428838
https://lemmy.world/post/27416097
https://lemmy.world/post/27314050
https://lemmy.world/post/27288953
That spew Russian talking points like Ukraines invasion just being a “negotiating tactic” https://lemmy.world/post/27012640
To general hostility to other instances who haven’t “seen the way” yet https://lemmy.world/post/27426510
To their open declaration of support for Russia (direct from dessalines) https://lemmy.world/post/27352415
To even "concentration camps were just reeducation camps and weren’t that bad https://lemmy.world/post/26985447
It is crazy how obsessed you are with .ml while .world is calling cartoons critical of Israel “antisemitism”.
Ok and where is your linked evidence?
Looks like the issue was with the source and the comm you posted it in (worldnews is for articles not comics)
And it was expressly stated if you uploaded the comics to an appropriate comm without the tainted controversial source it would be perfectly fine. Have you tried uploading them to [email protected] ? Was it removed from there?
In any case, JordanLund is not an admin so worst case they’d just be a rogue mod, my evidence directly points to admin (e.g. dessalines and davel) censorship, mandates and propaganda pushing which is far worse. It speaks directly to the Tankie agenda they’re using their instance for
Please read the linked comment and down from there. For more context on why the specific site is brought up read up slightly.
Also please state whether you believe the comics are antisemitic.
Please read the linked comment and down from there. For more context on why the specific site is brought up read up slightly.
Still, it’s a bad moderation decision, not nearly as bad as having instance admins actively push a narrative and their personal political agenda like what is going on with .ml
Also please state whether you believe the comics are antisemitic.
I do not, from what I’ve seen they’re rightfully critical of the Israeli government and it’s policies and mere criticism of a religion is not anti-Semitic and in fact all religions should be openly criticized
Again, this is another perfect example to my earlier point that the majority of people whining about .world go there to stir the pot, violate the rules, get their shit removed, and then misinform the reasons. It tracks right along with their political ideology.
Modlog for reference.
You can stop defending Israel here. Read the post I linked and respond to it if you dare.
I hope everyone can see from this what I mean. These bots are programmed to side-step any factual accusation pointed at them and attack the accuser with false rhetoric.
Doing this is supposed to derail and distract from the fact that they have been proven to be what they’re accused of, and instead to put the accuser on a defensive.
Then they go after everyone else in other instances and communities, and cry about how they are censored and biased against.
Recognize this for what it is- and don’t let them do this.
Modlog for reference.
Call it out.
Another generic strawman trying to sidestep the issue. Every accusation is a confession for Zionists.
The irony.
It’s capitalist and pro-war propaganda.
You can see it for yourself.
Write a comment/post critical of china in any community from the lemmy.ml instance.
For example about the Uyghurs or the mass surveillance or whatever is your topic of choice.
See how much time it takes for them to ban you/remove your comment under their rule of “no xenophobia”.
I think the admins call it “Rule 1.”
Because even as the Earth burns and the Fascists march directly due to the capitalist’s class conquest, domination, and occupation, even many Americans who believe themselves to be politically leftwing think they can dunk on socialists and communists for their “silly” ideologies based in social cooperation and mutual social benefit where… Gasp… You can’t grind yourself to death under the toxic aspiration of attaining immoral levels of wealth to live larger than is reasonable within the finite shared habitat known as Earth.
They of course conveniently forget all the military actions the US has taken over the last century to destabilize nations that wanted to become such societies in order to keep their resource markets open to our capitalist’s exploitation.
Oh, and get ready for the hottest summer of your life… So far! 🔥🌎🔥
Anyone who praises Xi Jingping, Vladimir Putin, Kim Jong Un, and
<insertAuthoritarianMurdererHere>as hard as I routinely see on lemmy.ml, hexbear, and lemmygrad is an awful person and deserves derision, contempt, and distrust. They can call themselves a “leftist”, “socialist”, “communist”, or a whatever-ist. Fundamentally, they’re edgelord bootlickers and temporarily inconvenienced dictators-in-waiting.“wHaTaBoUt USA, iSrAeL, nAtO, etc.?”
You can hate “The West”, their people, their foreign policy, and their economics.
Doesn’t mean you should suck dictators’ dicks because they’re “not The West”.
Doesn’t mean you should suck dictators’ dicks
Why the homophobic comment though
How is that homophobic? There’s no mention of the gender of the bootlicking edgelords.
You don’t have to be a man to suck dick.
I’m pretty sure there’s some homophobic roots in there. But that aside, why would anyone use cock sucking as an insult? Doing that would only discourage cock sucking, and who in their right mind would want less cock sucking in the world. Makes no sense.
why would anyone use cock sucking as an insult?
Probably because of the perceived power dynamic between the cock sucker and cock suckee.
How does that make sense?
I can bite their dick off whenever I want, surely I’m the one with all the power here.
What if the dictator busts all your teeth out for a better time?
I’m sorry, if you really WANT to suck a dictators dick go ahead I guess…
Liberals keep telling me to support the lesser evil in elections, but when I apply that to geopolitics they get mad…
Socialism works in theory, but in practice they have not solved the problem of CIA death squads murdering their leaders and fomenting a coup.
A few kinda solved it, namely Soviet Union and Cuba. And libs will never forgive them for it.
No, they eventually took down the Soviets.
Cuba is next. 🖕🏻
LoL. Uh huh. Any day now…
Something else I’ve not seen mentioned here is:
It’s pretty easy to see how the admins rule all of the communities while the moderators of those communities seem to be nothing more than flaccid ineffective grunts that do nothing but let it happen.
For evidence, check the modlogs and see that the bans/removals from .ml are always done by the same two people. Then, note how those two people don’t even moderate the communities the comments/bans were issues from. This is not a bias. It’s verifiable by simply checking the logs.
Then, note how most of the bans/removals don’t even violate the rules, but seemingly only hurt the feelings of the aforementioned admins.
They are a walled garden of propaganda-riddled rhetoric.
Additionally, many of the kids that habituate that place come in to other instances and stir pots, debate-troll people, and generally shit all over everything, and then cry and accuse everyone of bias when they get moderated by ACTUAL moderators.
The evidence here, lies in the modlogs of all the people complaints about how shitty .world and other instances are. Check for yourself. See that I’m not lying.
Lastly, I’ve not once ever posted, or commented in a single community of .ml, so unlike them- my bias is driven by real-world evidence, and not anecdotal reactionary temper tantrums.
I am not banned nor downvoted for telling people when they romanticize USSR or how USSR fucked my country.
I think I got banned from some trans group for calling their arrogance that I should care about every Dick and Harry enough to ask them about their pronouns.
I don’t give a fuck, will call you whatever you look like, and if it’s neither you’re gonna be called petal.
I have no clue where do you find the people you write about. Also, like most lemmy users I picked this instance at random.
if you can’t even muster up basic respect for other people do you think they should respect you or your sensibilities?
I don’t think I follow?
I think I misread, I thought you were complaining about being down voted/banned for being negative about the USSR
either way you should still respect other people by gendering them correctly. it’s really not hard and if you expect them to be respecting you in the conversation then it’s the bare minimum you should do
I think you still didn’t understood me correctly. I’m not against calling people what they ask me to call them, I’m against the idea that I should be proactively gathering that information.
Do you believe in learning people’s names?
As someone brand new to Lemmy I’m now learning a lot of horrible new info on myself based on arbitrarily signing up for a random instance.
I didn’t realize I was supposed to psychically know about lemmy lore before ever using it.
FWIW, I left .ml after about a year (and around a month ago) because there were just enough threads shit flinging and just enough posts like below, and just enough people who would dismiss any argument based on seeing .ml that it annoyed the shit out of me.
Not for how anyone at .ml ever treated me. (And FTR I’m not a communist)
So I’d say how much you worry about it is up to you, but switching instances is also pretty easy.
so you admit you’re a tankie alt? Good job, see you on [email protected] lol
I don’t know. I’m on ml. Something about ‘tankies’? I dont bother thinking about those cliques and ppl being so clique-y, and nor should anyone else. immature behaviour tbh, but I haven’t received any teasing for being on ml so I think it’s a minority of people who really dislike lefties maybe?
Its not about all users on ml, but about the quite big (or very loud) group of ml users being tankies. This phenomenon is so wide spread, that in most cases when you see a tankie somewhere they are usually coming from ml.
Except now y’all broadly apply “tankie” to anyone who’s anti-war, so it’s lost all meaning.
If by war you mean the Ukraine war. And by anti you mean give Russia all it wants in order to end it. Yes, anyone that is anti-war is a tankie.
Yeah, that’s what I said. Y’all apply it to everybody who opposes escalation with nuclear superpowers, or supporting US proxy wars.
If you support those, then you’re not anti-war.
opposes escalation with nuclear superpowers
Violating an agreement guaranteeing Ukraine’s borders? Totally fine. Providing support in accordance with that agreement? A step too far, that’s escalation!
Next tell me how evil nato forced putin to invade Ukraine to prevent nato expansion. And then how two new countries joining nato counts as preventing nato expansion.
Which is it? Should the Minsk agreements have been followed or not? Because every action you’re describing by the west is a violation of the agreements. Zelenskyy ran on neutrality, and respecting agreements made with Russia, then reversed course once elected, and now refuses to hold elections and risk the people electing a real neutral candidate.
You have a complete misunderstanding of the basic facts in this conflict: https://savageminds.substack.com/p/save-ukraine-from-american-meddling
The Budapest memorandum. You know, the entire reason Ukraine handed over their nukes? Minsk happened after Russia already violated that. Ukraine should’ve had an entire US arsenal the second Russian troops stepped foot in Ukraine.
And it’s well documented that Russian regulars were there, so don’t bother with the separatist stuff.
Its totally dissimilar to “blue mAgA” and “LiBtArD” being attributed to anyone that didn’t vote 3rd party though, right?
Went there first since I consider myself a leftist. Seen multiple thirstposts for Stalin and the likes: pretty picture with a popular quote. Comments all in the realm of “yes daddy”.
I hate capitalism as much as the next guy, just don’t see a point of swapping it for an equally bad form of repression.
lemmy.ml, hexbear, and lemmygrad users verbally fellate contemporary and historical autocratic mass-murderers they deem to be “leftists”, or “great leaders and allies to the cause”, most recently being Vladimir Putin, Xi Jingping, and Kim Jong Un.
They are, in reality, bitch-made invertebrates who don’t even have the arm-strength to lift their Molotov-sippy-cups out of their premium-outdoor-brand backpacks, let alone form meaningful opinions on economics, political philosophy, or geopolitical reality.
New user checking in, did you use the two asterisks or the pound sign?
So I’m 100% on board with most of what you said but… What on earth does ‘bitch-made’ mean? It’s setting off my women-hating red flags.
I googled it and scrolled down and got some garbage about a man raised by women, so I have concerns.
I agree, I don’t particularly care about shitting on Putin or any other world leader, it’s the thinly veiled misogyny/whatever at ‘enemies’ broadly with people gleefully encouraging it which makes me respond negatively
Diva, we disagree on a lot of things, and we agree on others, which makes you (genuinely) so much fun for me to see in a thread.
I just told people on another thread that (because of my trauma background) I don’t feel anger very often, which means I appreciate folks like you (and conversely, maybe, Rusty here) because I see you leap straight to it with abandon.
I guess what I’m saying is, it takes all kinds to make a world, and I’m glad you’re in it.
Thank you, the feeling is mutual! 😊
Bitch-made, in the literal sense, as in “of ill birth from a mangy female dog”.
I have heard it used in common street language where I’m from from both men and women, gay and straight.
hey look a post from a lib that’s so mad about internet forums not following the narrative that they can’t contain their homophobia and misogyny 📷
I’m gonna show your comment to my wife, and one of my best friends, at whose gay wedding, I will be speaking. Congrats! You’re in the speech! Let’s face it, we all need to laugh more in life, and judging by your reaction, I prefer to do it at your expense.
So please, cry harder, because I need more material!
🫶🏽🥂
‘jokes on you, I have gay friends’
-the person posting homophobia
maybe you should read your comments first at your hypothetical wedding, see how it goes over.
How the hell are you reading homophobia into the original comment?
'verbally fellating" is kind of the tipoff
the misogyny is the second paragraph
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This right here is why ML has the reputation it does.
ML has the reputation it does because most westerners believe the red scare propaganda.
most arguments against it by the aforementioned people have a shaky connection to reality at best.
As I’ve said before, it doesn’t matter if you suck dick or not. It does matter whose dick your sucking (proverbially), which in this case would be Putin, Jingping, et. al.
In the last year I saw way more people being supportive of genocidal libs like Biden and Harris, I judge those people pretty harshly too
maybe you should read your comments first at your hypothetical wedding, see how it goes over.
I intend to! What a perfect moment to highlight the exploits of edgelords on the internet. I’m sure I’ll be strenuously heckled and ostracized for condemning and deriding supporters of Putin, the CCP, and the DPRK on the internet there.
It’s in June, back home in Chicago, so it’ll be a joyous affair, of which you’re an expert of, no doubt.
I’m sure homophobic insults will go over great with the people you associate with.
There’s nothing homophobic about what I said.
I’m sure all your gay friends approve👍
More of this weird mythological fearmongering. Absolutely nobody on any of those sites believe that Vladimir fucking Putin is a leftist. You are pulling this assertion straight from an uninformed ass.
The bad part is that they support him, whether or not they consider him a real leftist is less important
Absolutely nobody on any of those sites believe that Vladimir fucking Putin is a leftist.
I have seen evidence to the contrary.
Those wannabe champions of labor are temporarily-inconvenienced-dictators-in-waiting.
I have seen evidence to the contrary.
where the fuck are you finding it? i hang out in these instances often and will rarely see it.
Then link it. You’re full of shit.
- Gathered all by the same dude
- Uses his own posts as evidence
- Considers anarchist instances tankie instances
So if I gather my own posts as a citation for my own claims that’s valid too?
Did you actually read through their links? Because if you did, I don’t think you’d be this confident.
I have. I stand by everything I’ve written in this post.
Well, I read through them, and they are definitely not making the point that y’all are trying to make. I assume you’re counting on other people not going through them.
Damn it all. They didn’t disclose how I was supposed to behave during the sign up process.
That was beautifully put.
Thank you.
JFC son this is not a roast this is a fucking napalm strike, god damn.
I’ve only blocked a few ml users but I made sure to block that instance.
