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    4 days ago

    OHHH this all makes sense suddenly. Curtis fucking Yarvin the dweeb-villain himself is behind this. Everyone should be aware of the technofeudalist plan to destroy America as we know it and turn it into a network state with monarch-like ultra-authoritarian “CEOs” of each country. Oh and btw Peter Thiel is fully bought into this (there are dozens of verified comms between them), and Thiel owns Vance. So when Trump dies, this is their ultimate plan.

    Check out Prospera in Honduras, one early example of these states.

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      4 days ago

      Sounds about right. They know climate change is coming and Greenland will be prime real estate in a few decades.

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        I don’t think climate change is the primary driver, since they won’t even be alive to see the worst affects of it. Don’t get me wrong it’s going to make everything worse even within 10 years, but it’s not turning Greenland into some habitable, farmable landmass in the span of these technofascists’ lifetimes. God I hate this.

        People should read The Ministry for the Future to learn how they dealt with climate criminals as more and more people suffered and died due to climate change in the mid-future.

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          I genuinely believe you’re underestimating how important legacy is to these people. These rich fucks donating to have anything built is to see their name in stone on the building facade. I think you’re dead wrong that they’d approach this any differently knowing they won’t live to reap their investment, they’ll do exactly that to immortalize their families.

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            Interesting point. I can see it going both ways. They are fundamentally broken inside with greed and selfishness, but also obsessed with immortality and legacy like you said, so maybe a little of both?

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          These people believe that they will actually defeat death itself with technology. It is part of their ideology. Look into transhumanism and how the tech bros heavily buy into the idea that they will outlive us all because they assume themselves to be superior. Thiel openly says so in that Antichrist NYT interview.

          Survival of the richest by Douglas Rushkoff (professor of media theory and the guy who coined terms like ‘viral media’ and ‘digital native’) is a very interesting read on that.

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            That’s not bad though (having a go at death itself, we’re mere machines so why not), we have alleviated suffering and early death with medicine for centuries. They? They are illiterate morons when it comes to biology and will believe anything grifters will sell them, like cold treatments, injecting stem cells and whatever other “silver bullet” treatment. Almost funny how they are getting fooled if it wasn’t diverting so much effort away from real progress.

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              Well, can’t go with you on that first part. A believe I hold is that in free will and chance/randomness. As a deterministic approach would be a prerequisite for humans to be transfered into states of ones and zeros, it would mean, that everything about us is predetermined and I simply refuse to subscribe to that idea.

              But the second part, spot on.

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                Makes me remember that old “chose your adventure” book comic:

                The old man asks you “do you believe everything is deterministic?”

                For “yes” go to page 72. For"no" go to page 72

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          You jest, but these are egomaniacs that believe they are the harbingers and rulers of a new world. I’m not saying it’s true, however it is totally within the realm of possibility that, at this point, they view their actions as terraforming.

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            Why can’t we just… like… terraform our current environment? Y’know, like, cleaning the air, soil, and water…? Right…?

            I know the answer is because it’s not profitable.