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    All previous nvestigations and attempts at building of infrastructure on Greenland has given the same results: It is not feasible.

    This idea of building a biodome city is like people in the 1800s dreaming of flying to the moon using steam engines and gas blimps.

    There’s good reason why Greenland/Denmark/China has already given up for now on building the much wanted airport hub and mineral extraction etc. There’s good reasons why USA abandoned their nuclear silos there. At the moment it will cost insane amounts of money if it’s even possible.

    Maybe in 50-100 years when the ice has melted, then we can investigate once again to find out if it’s even possible then or if the assumed bedrock under the ice is actually just a pile of mud.

    The current knowledge and technology can’t do this in any way that will make any economical sense in comparison to what that amount of money can actually create elsewhere right now.

    If the billionaires want to throw all their money at it, sure, go ahead. It’s not going to work, but at least their money will change hands in the process.

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    OHHH this all makes sense suddenly. Curtis fucking Yarvin the dweeb-villain himself is behind this. Everyone should be aware of the technofeudalist plan to destroy America as we know it and turn it into a network state with monarch-like ultra-authoritarian “CEOs” of each country. Oh and btw Peter Thiel is fully bought into this (there are dozens of verified comms between them), and Thiel owns Vance. So when Trump dies, this is their ultimate plan.

    Check out Prospera in Honduras, one early example of these states.

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      Sounds about right. They know climate change is coming and Greenland will be prime real estate in a few decades.

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          You jest, but these are egomaniacs that believe they are the harbingers and rulers of a new world. I’m not saying it’s true, however it is totally within the realm of possibility that, at this point, they view their actions as terraforming.

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        I don’t think climate change is the primary driver, since they won’t even be alive to see the worst affects of it. Don’t get me wrong it’s going to make everything worse even within 10 years, but it’s not turning Greenland into some habitable, farmable landmass in the span of these technofascists’ lifetimes. God I hate this.

        People should read The Ministry for the Future to learn how they dealt with climate criminals as more and more people suffered and died due to climate change in the mid-future.

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          I genuinely believe you’re underestimating how important legacy is to these people. These rich fucks donating to have anything built is to see their name in stone on the building facade. I think you’re dead wrong that they’d approach this any differently knowing they won’t live to reap their investment, they’ll do exactly that to immortalize their families.

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    This is why being a philanthropist doesn’t reform a billionaire. They’re making decisions for the rest of us using our money.

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      The money still have to come from somewhere, either they get it from stock or from investment/project like these.

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        keep following that chain…where do you think the $ going into the stock market comes from?

        ultimately, the entire thing hinges on underpaying people for their labor

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          Uhh, where do you think i’m going? I thought it’s pretty obvious that i point to both stock and such project, which is very much contradicting to his philanthropy project, but meh people here really need to have thing spell out for them in a wall of text.

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    Andrew Ryan voice: A city free of the tyranny of labor laws and the age of consent

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        Free to build the data centers necessary to control an army of terminators; to genocide the proles once capitalism no longer requires their labour.

        Like, I’m not even joking. I have zero doubt whatsoever that is the final solution in the minds of psychopaths like Thiel or Altman. Humanity is currently a parasite and our civilisation can not continue at the current rate of consumption for more than a couple of centuries without monumental leaps in technology.

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    Here’s my tinfoil hat hot take:

    Considering the development of hypersonic missiles, Greenland would do little to defend/protect during modern warfare.

    But the location combined with low population, thermal power sources, would be ideal for development for an attempt to create a future climate change shelter. If a select group wanted to keep cool on their own big island as the rest of the world burned, this is how I would expect them to plan it out.

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        He’s a means to an end for those that want to do whatever the fuck they like. Can him the smartest man you’ve ever met, throw him some pocket change and give him a fake trophy, he’ll do whatever you tell him.

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    wait wait wait…

    is THIS the real reason Trump wants to take over Greenland? because the cool kids are all going there, and they didn’t invite him?

    hahaha! what a turd. old Donny Nofriends. so pathetic.

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    Maybe all the shitheads will move over there and the rest of us can get to work on clean night up the country. Although that would mean the poor Greenlanders being drowned out with shithead invaders, which is extremely unfair on them.

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      Just shows that the idea that Bill Gates was one of the good ones was just PR. There are no good billionaires.

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        Somebody said that the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is a way for him to funnel money to his children without paying taxes, and that the disease fighting stuff is just a side benefit.

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          I mean, the thing is that a donation to philanthropy is tax deductible, so even if you control the charity 100%, it counts. Instead of paying taxes, you’re just paying yourself. And once it’s in that charity, you can use that money for any charitable cause, even if that cause benefits the non-charitable side of your portfolio. This means that you can

          • pay for your own PR
          • use the charity money to buy a bunch of medicine to eradicate some disease, while you have investments in the pharma company that will provide said medicine
          • donate to academia to steer research goals and then become a early investor in any spinoff companies that result from that
          • donate to a charity run by a politician/other rich person to curry favour

          It’s not a coincidence he’s become richer despite ‘donating his wealth’.

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          it is 100% a tax-avoidance scheme, they occasionally spend that $ wisely…that $ would 100% be more effeciently spent if done via a properly coordinated/supported government effort.

          that being said…in the Land of the Free…considering how shit is run I 100% understand why so many of these people keep as much of their $ as possible out of the feds hands. the ratfucking doesn’t stop when Dem’s are running things, it’s just slightly better hidden.

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      They have no interest in living a good life for themselves, the main purpose is always to lord over others and stomp on their faces to satisfy sexually sadistic urges.