• SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world
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    20 hours ago

    I’ve seen unions in plants reinstate workers and remove machines because it reduced labor.

    Instead of a machine sorting bagels down two different conveyers, there’s now someone standing there all shift with a yard ruler.

    I can’t imagine anyone actually wanting a job like that.

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      factory jobs have alway been abusive and exploitative, they wouldve done it either way if it saves them money. look at Lays union protest that happened a few years ago. they were working 60+hrs/week.

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      17 hours ago

      this reminds me of a story … the american foreign politics minister visits china in 1950. he sees the workers are building a new railway using shovels instead of machine baggers. he asks the construction leader “why don’t they use engines for that?” the construction leader replies “sothat it creates more jobs”. american minister replies “they should use spoons the next time!”

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        19 hours ago

        There’s other roles in the plant, but requires training and people don’t like change. Another thing unions create issues with, bakers can’t use a broom, that’s someone else’s job. So you’re taking someone else’s job away to give them their instead? There’s seniority as well.

        The other thing is, plenty of other jobs are available as well, not every place is having unemployment issues.

        Also, employment benefits, they’ll be paid while they find another job, it also provides money for training in certain scenarios too.

        Real life is complicated, and not as simple as you’re making it.

        For what it’s worth, the union suggested that role be originally replaced by a machine, than they suffered the consequences, and the company just wasted a bunch of money. The role sucked and no one wanted it so they went up the chain, but it literally is replacing a job. That person isn’t needed anymore, so they grieved that their job was lost…

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          We need to reframe this discussion. Instead of being concerned that someone is taking our jobs, we should be upset that we live in a society that requires you to work or be homeless.

          We literally live in a post-scarcity society, and yet we have a handful of billionaires hoarding all the resources.

          In the Ape world, they’d beat another member of the group to death if they were trying to hoard all the resources and food.

          Just sayin, we decided to put these sociopaths in charge of everything instead.