So many people (or bots, but especially on reddit) get their panties in a bunch when you say the DNC is not your friend. They are complicit. There are a handful of politicians that caucus with Dems that I really believe are fighting for the little guy, but the party as a whole loves the power/wealth the ruling class is gaining through the fascist takeover.
Eh, I dunno. I don’t think the DNC is my “friend”, but I also recognize that the harm caused by democrats is a paltry fraction of that caused by republicans, and I do find it offensive when people equate them, its absolutely lying and I absolutely consider it harmful.
I may be against the existence of the state, but I can also recognize that one choice gets way more people hurt and killed that I don’t want to see hurt or killed.
Just because I recognize that the US is a poor excuse for a democracy doesn’t mean I won’t try and make use of the currently available mechanisms to prevent additional people from being hurt and/or killed. I’m not into the accelerationist bullshit.
I think part of the problem is that many of the people who complain about democrats absolutely will call them fully equal to republicans, which just makes them seem like an idiot that isnt worth listening to because of how separated from reality those comments are.
As bad as in certain situations? Sure. Overall? LOL no.
But just as some people will complain that I just wrote “whole ass paragraphs”, nuance doesn’t often play well on social media (including the fediverse) compared to “strong stances against!!!” whatever thing, which just furthers the divide rather than expanding the further left.
Why do you think all these bills that would substantively improve peoples lives always fails by just 1 vote, and it’s always a different person? Have you ever heard of the rotating villain method? They all figure out what to do and then make the voting look like they were trying so hard but just failed.
If I had to pick between these two dogshit parties, I would pick D every time, but the party as a whole doesn’t give a shit about you, they care about power and wealth. They just happen to have a little better messaging than Republicans. By the way that’s most politicians everywhere.
The Dems (neolibs) want the 1990s. They don’t want an oligarchy, and they’re (mostly) not complicit, with a few exceptions.
The Dems, as a whole, have never taken the kind of power that Trump has. Partly because it’s damaging to the country, and partly because it’s blatantly illegal.
The Dems also haven’t had 8 years of cutting internal opposition in primaries. In fact, after the whole Bernie/Hillary thing the Dems went in the opposite direction of that. That’s what you all wanted.
You wanted the party to have less control. The party now has less control, and you’re all :shocked Pikachu: that they’re not able to whip every single member in line.
(Progressives want to fix problems, not just return us to the 1990s. We can do better.)
Pure cope and denialism, through and through. You need to allow yourself to face reality. I know it’s uncomfortable and scary, I know nobody wants to feel disillusioned and disenfranchised, but it beats being under the illusion that the democratic party are doing everything they can to beat the republicans and deliver a progressive policy platform.
It is overwhelmingly obvious that mainstream democrats are more focused on fighting their left flank than they are about winning. They would rather lose as centrists than win as a left-leaning party. That’s why they snatched Clinton’s defeat from the jaws of Bernie’s victory, that’s why they constantly cry about Hasan Piker, it’s why they refused to primary a candidate in 2024 and it’s why Kamala advocated for republican policies (harder border, pro-military/military industrial complex, and so on.
The democrats try to strike a balance between the base of the democratic party (generally progressive people) and the donors of the democratic party (corporations, billionaires, Israel, lobbyists) but when it comes down to a conflict, the party has and always will side with the money.
Yup totally the opposite direction, that’s why they didn’t even have a primary and forced a terrible candidate on everyone, sounds like less control right?
The leadership isn’t whipping because they want this to happen. Schumer literally said his priority is Israel.
The dems are complicit, they had the Epstein files and did nothing, they watched as Trump tried to overthrow the government and they did nothing, just like they watched as wall street destroyed our economy and did nothing. If they regain power they will again do nothing about what has happened.
Ahh yes I an individual with no power is more complicit than a party that has shared the responsibilities of managing our society for centuries. I didn’t choose to provide bombs for a genocide but don’t worry you can continue to think whatever it is that will help you sleep at night.
So many people (or bots, but especially on reddit) get their panties in a bunch when you say the DNC is not your friend. They are complicit. There are a handful of politicians that caucus with Dems that I really believe are fighting for the little guy, but the party as a whole loves the power/wealth the ruling class is gaining through the fascist takeover.
Eh, I dunno. I don’t think the DNC is my “friend”, but I also recognize that the harm caused by democrats is a paltry fraction of that caused by republicans, and I do find it offensive when people equate them, its absolutely lying and I absolutely consider it harmful.
I may be against the existence of the state, but I can also recognize that one choice gets way more people hurt and killed that I don’t want to see hurt or killed.
Just because I recognize that the US is a poor excuse for a democracy doesn’t mean I won’t try and make use of the currently available mechanisms to prevent additional people from being hurt and/or killed. I’m not into the accelerationist bullshit.
I think part of the problem is that many of the people who complain about democrats absolutely will call them fully equal to republicans, which just makes them seem like an idiot that isnt worth listening to because of how separated from reality those comments are.
As bad as in certain situations? Sure. Overall? LOL no.
But just as some people will complain that I just wrote “whole ass paragraphs”, nuance doesn’t often play well on social media (including the fediverse) compared to “strong stances against!!!” whatever thing, which just furthers the divide rather than expanding the further left.
Just my opinion of course.
Why do you think all these bills that would substantively improve peoples lives always fails by just 1 vote, and it’s always a different person? Have you ever heard of the rotating villain method? They all figure out what to do and then make the voting look like they were trying so hard but just failed.
If I had to pick between these two dogshit parties, I would pick D every time, but the party as a whole doesn’t give a shit about you, they care about power and wealth. They just happen to have a little better messaging than Republicans. By the way that’s most politicians everywhere.
The Dems (neolibs) want the 1990s. They don’t want an oligarchy, and they’re (mostly) not complicit, with a few exceptions.
The Dems, as a whole, have never taken the kind of power that Trump has. Partly because it’s damaging to the country, and partly because it’s blatantly illegal.
The Dems also haven’t had 8 years of cutting internal opposition in primaries. In fact, after the whole Bernie/Hillary thing the Dems went in the opposite direction of that. That’s what you all wanted.
You wanted the party to have less control. The party now has less control, and you’re all :shocked Pikachu: that they’re not able to whip every single member in line.
(Progressives want to fix problems, not just return us to the 1990s. We can do better.)
Pure cope and denialism, through and through. You need to allow yourself to face reality. I know it’s uncomfortable and scary, I know nobody wants to feel disillusioned and disenfranchised, but it beats being under the illusion that the democratic party are doing everything they can to beat the republicans and deliver a progressive policy platform.
It is overwhelmingly obvious that mainstream democrats are more focused on fighting their left flank than they are about winning. They would rather lose as centrists than win as a left-leaning party. That’s why they snatched Clinton’s defeat from the jaws of Bernie’s victory, that’s why they constantly cry about Hasan Piker, it’s why they refused to primary a candidate in 2024 and it’s why Kamala advocated for republican policies (harder border, pro-military/military industrial complex, and so on.
The democrats try to strike a balance between the base of the democratic party (generally progressive people) and the donors of the democratic party (corporations, billionaires, Israel, lobbyists) but when it comes down to a conflict, the party has and always will side with the money.
Yup totally the opposite direction, that’s why they didn’t even have a primary and forced a terrible candidate on everyone, sounds like less control right?
The leadership isn’t whipping because they want this to happen. Schumer literally said his priority is Israel.
The dems are complicit, they had the Epstein files and did nothing, they watched as Trump tried to overthrow the government and they did nothing, just like they watched as wall street destroyed our economy and did nothing. If they regain power they will again do nothing about what has happened.
Honestly I think you’re more complicit than the Dems are.
Ahh yes I an individual with no power is more complicit than a party that has shared the responsibilities of managing our society for centuries. I didn’t choose to provide bombs for a genocide but don’t worry you can continue to think whatever it is that will help you sleep at night.