I think we can all agree that rape and pedophilia is a heinous crime that isn’t taken nearly as seriously as it should, especially like all crimes when the perpetrator is rich.
But let’s not place one gender as the oppressor and the other as the victim. That’s not what the patriarchy is and that’s not what pedophilia and rape victim statistics say. The patriarchy is the dominant social structure and it is helmed by a small group of men of extreme privilege. Below them is a mix of men and women varying in gender mix and privilege until you get to the bottom which is filled in large part by homeless men because the hierarchy punishes men who don’t accept it particularly harshly. The poorest women generally “need to be protected” because paternalistic protection of women is a core (and sexist) value of the patriarchy.
The point is not to say one gender has it better or worse, there is no doubt that on the whole the patriarchy favours men. The point is that the while the issue of rape a pedophilia is a GENDERED issue, it’s not a men vs women thing. Men aren’t high-fiving rapists for raping girls. I can’t go to a single one of my friends or any stranger and get anything but a call to the police if I said “I raped a 16y old girl”. Women aren’t always the victims, sometimes the victims are boys, sometimes the perpetrators are women. Women aren’t 100% treated worse in every case, it’s a known fact, such as in this prosecution that women are treated more leniently by the courts. The average prosecution for statutory is ~40 months, she got 3.
Rape and pedophilia are horrible problems and we aren’t even close to a society that creates justice for victims, but the attitude you have on the topic just muddles the problem further instead of helping towards a solution. If you can get past your ideology and accept all the facts of the situation you’ll be a much more effective advocate for victims.
And all that 40 month 3 month shit pales in comparison to the sheer number of men who simply never get prosecuted. I never said “ignore the women! Get the men!” I just said that men get off for raping girls far far far more than women do. It’s a cold fact, and nothing in all those paragraphs you put forth, changes that.
We can acknowledge that and move on, but everyone seems to prefer to stick their fingers in their ears and scream instead, because they would prefer to punish women more than they want to punish men. And if you really want to dive into patriarchy, you’d see that mindset, instilled by patriarchy, playing out all over this thread.
I think we can all agree that rape and pedophilia is a heinous crime that isn’t taken nearly as seriously as it should, especially like all crimes when the perpetrator is rich.
But let’s not place one gender as the oppressor and the other as the victim. That’s not what the patriarchy is and that’s not what pedophilia and rape victim statistics say. The patriarchy is the dominant social structure and it is helmed by a small group of men of extreme privilege. Below them is a mix of men and women varying in gender mix and privilege until you get to the bottom which is filled in large part by homeless men because the hierarchy punishes men who don’t accept it particularly harshly. The poorest women generally “need to be protected” because paternalistic protection of women is a core (and sexist) value of the patriarchy.
The point is not to say one gender has it better or worse, there is no doubt that on the whole the patriarchy favours men. The point is that the while the issue of rape a pedophilia is a GENDERED issue, it’s not a men vs women thing. Men aren’t high-fiving rapists for raping girls. I can’t go to a single one of my friends or any stranger and get anything but a call to the police if I said “I raped a 16y old girl”. Women aren’t always the victims, sometimes the victims are boys, sometimes the perpetrators are women. Women aren’t 100% treated worse in every case, it’s a known fact, such as in this prosecution that women are treated more leniently by the courts. The average prosecution for statutory is ~40 months, she got 3.
Rape and pedophilia are horrible problems and we aren’t even close to a society that creates justice for victims, but the attitude you have on the topic just muddles the problem further instead of helping towards a solution. If you can get past your ideology and accept all the facts of the situation you’ll be a much more effective advocate for victims.
And all that 40 month 3 month shit pales in comparison to the sheer number of men who simply never get prosecuted. I never said “ignore the women! Get the men!” I just said that men get off for raping girls far far far more than women do. It’s a cold fact, and nothing in all those paragraphs you put forth, changes that.
We can acknowledge that and move on, but everyone seems to prefer to stick their fingers in their ears and scream instead, because they would prefer to punish women more than they want to punish men. And if you really want to dive into patriarchy, you’d see that mindset, instilled by patriarchy, playing out all over this thread.