• HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    Again, what gives anyone the right to determine what someone else puts on land they own?

    You seem to actively want people to have to obey someone else, and if that’s not sucking authoritarian cock I don’t know what is.

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            4 hours ago

            Immoral laws should not exist, and when they do they should not be followed.

            Any laws without an actual victim are immoral laws.

            Therefore any law that says I can’t build something out in the middle of nowhere, on land I own, with no neighbors within a mile of me where no other land owners could conceivably be affected is itself also an immoral law.

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      6 hours ago

      I hope you don’t mind when I build a 50 meter tall sun blocker to block your land from getting any sunlight since I should be allowed to build what I want.

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        2 hours ago

        Go for it, a nice shaded area would help me immensely. I do, however hope you’ve done a ground analysis, because if it falls on my house you’re building me another. That’s how it works. If it’s no longer on just your property, it becomes my problem too.

        Edit to add: Besides, in cases where there’s clearly been damage to another person and/or their property, that in itself is at the minimum a civil case.

        One could even argue that environmental concerns could also be a civil problem, as one person’s poisonous fumes could easily cross into another person’s property and damage their person or effects.

        All these so called environmental laws do is make it legal for any amount under a set limit. Regardless of any damage to people or property it causes. It’s a legal amount after all!

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      1 day ago

      You keep ascribing desires to me when I’ve done nothing more than explain the current situation… I have not stated a single opinion of mine in this thread thus far.

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      20 hours ago

      In case your attempt to start arguments is sparked from actual ignorance ….

      federal permitting and leasing for wind projects

      • many wind farms are not on owned property. In particular for offshore wind farms there is no land that can be owned. Many projects are in locations leased from the government
      • if turbines are above above a certain height, it affects airspace used for flying, you don’t own
      • even renewables can be bad for the environment. The trope about killing birds has some truth to it, and environmental review keeps it from happening
      • yes, renewables can affect your neighbors and they deserve some consideration
      • yes, it’s conceivable that a wind farm offshore or near a base or a border can have national security implications

      In a nation of laws, things like this are worth considering. However that is different than using them as cover for personal beliefs

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        19 hours ago

        I’m well aware of the justifications used to say a person’s property isn’t actually theirs.

        I just disagree with them all.