A few days ago, the U.S. government sanctioned A/I for supporting “extreme far-left antifa terrorists”. If you didn’t know, A/I is an antifascist and anticapitalist group based in Italy, and they host a lot of services (like email, website hosting, etc.) run through donations. Their policy states that they are against racism, sexism, militarism, homophobia, and transphobia, and you have to agree to those principles to use their services. Their website and mailing server has been taken down, and unfortunately, that also means my email no longer works. It’s kind of insane how quickly the American government can take down internet services they don’t like. A/I has denied all of the allegations by the Trump admin, and rightfully so, they’re just a digital services provider who respect your privacy and are against fascism and bigotry.

relevant link if you want to read more about this: https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10076

I still need to use email, so what’s a good alternative email provider that doesn’t profit off of my data? I have used Disroot in the past and had good experiences with their services, so they are currently my fallback. I have ruled out Proton and Tuta, as neither support IMAP properly.

    • quick_snail@feddit.nl
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      5 hours ago

      The precedent also reaches beyond explicitly anarchist or antifascist projects. If political alignment with users, privacy protections and the hosting of controversial publications can be assembled into a case that infrastructure itself constitutes support, then encrypted mail providers, radical publishers, community archives, VPNs, federated social networks, legal-support projects and other independent hosts all have reason to pay attention

  • quick_snail@feddit.nl
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    12
    ·
    edit-2
    5 hours ago

    Iirc AI designed their systems to be decentralized

    They’re Italian and run servers all over the world outside the jurisdiction of the US executive branch.

    If they’re down, I assume it’s temporary. Anyway, noblogs had a list of other tech collectives on their website. You can surely load it on way back machine

  • Wispy2891@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    5 hours ago

    It’s really BS how they’re considered a “terrorist group” while real terrorist groups like the IDF continue killing innocent people

    • sbird@sopuli.xyzOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      35 minutes ago

      It looks like they only accept direct transfer and credit card. They do not accept Bitcoin (or any other cryptocurrency), they have a blog article about why on their donation page if you are interested.

  • quick_snail@feddit.nl
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    6 hours ago

    They will be back. This is trivial to fix.

    But if you really want an alternative, disroot is great.

  • NathanRanch@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    7
    ·
    9 hours ago

    Any country that uses the dollar is seen by the American government as subordinate to them. They will use that to pursue political goals.

    • 𝕱𝖎𝖗𝖊𝖜𝖎𝖙𝖈𝖍@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      25
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      14 hours ago

      The Trump regime is proud of that. They are happy to do all the signalling that they are full blown fascists short of admitting directly to it. That way there’s enough “reasonable doubt” that they can sell their snake oil to idiots.

      • JaggedRobotPubes@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        10 hours ago

        They are trying really, really hard to pretend they are happy to do that, but the fact that none of their smiles actually look happy could be considered evidence for a lack of happiness.

      • Nouvellalia@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        16
        ·
        15 hours ago

        You are infantilizing the fascist underbelly that supports trump.

        The “reasonable doubt” isn’t to confuse “idiots”. These “idiots” see through it just like you. The “reasonable doubt” is to give the “idiots” cover against their neighbors, friends, and family.

        They know very well what they are voting for, but they are cowards. All fascists are cowards. They will not fight unless they have overwhelming advantage.

        Their ideologies stem from deep fear, better described as a life enveloping terror, of everything. For the fascist to feel safe, all things must be dominated or destroyed.

        How many children would still see their trump voting parents if the parents said openly “I voted for trump because he is going to kill the people I don’t like”? How many who still see that family member now, wouldn’t under those conditions?

        How about last term? How many would have left that person in 2016?

        How many neighbors would live next to a person who openly calls for genocide in the neighborhood?

        The “reasonable doubt” is cover for these hateful, destructive people. It does not confuse them. They know what they are doing.

        • 𝕱𝖎𝖗𝖊𝖜𝖎𝖙𝖈𝖍@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          6
          ·
          edit-2
          9 hours ago

          Oh for certain. There’s two cohorts of people here:

          The first is a large subset of the population (around 30% at a guess) who, much like Stephen Miller, are afraid of their own shadows and wish to exterminate anything that casts one. For them, the reasonable doubt is purely a facade. They know they are Nazis, they just won’t admit it publicly (but even that social veil has started to crumble)

          The second cohort is the portion of the population who is largely unaffected by or uninterrested in politics. Here, reasonable doubt is among the tactics employed by the Nazis to make them look away, allowing them to maintain control. For the most part, these are the “both siders” who prefer a false peace through inaction, or the “apoliticals” who don’t understand what machine Pink Floyd and RAtM sing about.

          If you ask me, both groups are idiots. They’re powerful idiots but nevertheless they’re the lowest percentile that humanity has to offer.

    • notSys@lemmy.cafe
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      26
      ·
      12 hours ago

      I’m antifascist, I want the death of all Indians (sorry Indians), I want to create a totalitarian regime ruled by complete degenerated person and I’m actively pursuing my goals. If you oppose me, it means you are a fascist.

      Those aren’t my views. I wanted to show that calling yourself antifascist doesn’t mean everyone who is against you is fascist.

          • AVincentInSpace@pawb.social
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            5 hours ago

            But you’re not, and anyone with at least two brain cells can see that.

            Trump calls “Antifa” a terrorist organization. “Antifa” is not an organization at all. It’s a broad term for people who call themselves anti-fascists, and rigidly police each other’s use of that term.

            • notSys@lemmy.cafe
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              3
              ·
              4 hours ago

              We are not talking about some abstract antifa, only this single organization.

              You argue that Trump is bad, because he is against organizations, that call themselves antifascist.

              I wanted to show that calling yourself antifascist doesn’t mean that people who are against you are fascist.

      • sbird@sopuli.xyzOP
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        9 hours ago

        Fascism is the desire for a totalitarian state where (in general) the population must put the state first above everything. Let’s see here:

        I want to create a totalitarian regime ruled by complete degenerated person and I’m actively pursuing my goals.

        Well, that sounds pretty fascist to me. Did you mix the two words up?

          • sbird@sopuli.xyzOP
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            39 minutes ago

            A/I is not calling for the death of any people group, and they are against racism and bigotry of all forms.

            Yes, giving yourself a label doesn’t necessarily mean it’s correct. North Korea calla itself a Democratic People’s Republic, when in reality it’s closer to a dictatorial monarchy mixed with bits of Marxism. But if we disregarded all labels that could be misused, we would have none at all!

            Also, what the hell man, calling for the death of all Indians as an “example” is not a good look. It doesn’t bode well for whar you actually believe in if you think this is a reasonable example to bring up.

    • floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      11
      ·
      12 hours ago

      Functionally equivalent most of the time, especially with some services like email even if your servers are running it doesn’t really matter if neither users nor senders can reach them. Do you remember the IP address of your IMAP server by heart?

      In any case, this is not just a DNS censor, it’s the full hammer of US “terror”-based sanctions. Their bank accounts are being frozen as Italian banks must comply, they can’t get certificates, hosting contracts with most of the world, and so on. It’s bad

      • rumba@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        7 hours ago

        I mean, the fucking way SSL falls over in that case, you can hardly blame anyone.

  • Dæmon S.@catodon.rocks
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    11
    ·
    15 hours ago

    If the domain name gets taken down, (hopefully) there’s still a server listening from an IP address somewhere. In this case, it’s possible to do the following (using the IP address as the domain for the URL, accompanied by a custom Host HTTP header pointing to autistici.org, noblogs.org and subdomains; notice this will require ignoring SSL certificate errors as the A/I certificates don’t contain the IP addresses as valid SANs). This way, A/I can even migrate their hosting to a VPS somewhere unreachable by USA and they don’t even need the Domain name, given, of course, the nginx configuration stays the same (i.e. using the subdomain aliases to point to all the different blogs hosted thereby) as well as the technical requirement from users to inject a custom Host header into a direct IP URL.

    The IP address from the screenshot is both from my dig noblogs.org through my local Brazilian ISP, and also from the status page from kuma.accol.li. If anyone still got working DNS resolutions for Autistici/Inventati servers, write down the IP address (use, for example, dig or even curl to get the IP address for their domains) before said domains stop being solved by the DNS server you use.

    [email protected]

    Screenshot of my terminal showing a command line in which curl does a request to a URL containing a direct IP address while passing a custom Host HTTP header pointing to autistici.org. curl did manage to connect and receive a valid response from Autistici/Inventati web servers despite autistici.org being unsolvable through DNS servers.

  • TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    5
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    14 hours ago

    Largely because they’ve got their easily purchasable corrupt politicians reactionary populists running Italy right now. You can’t ignore the politics of the country your host is in, and unfortunately, the billionaires want to extend their oligarchies internationally and would even willingly turn them into dictatorships if that’s what it takes. It’s the canary in the coal mine for Europe, because this is happening in a lot of places there.

    • Scrollone@feddit.it
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      12 hours ago

      This doesn’t have anything to do with Italy. A/I has been banned because they used a .org domain, which is under US control.

      If any, we should move to a decentralised DNS system.

      • TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        42 minutes ago

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autistici/Inventati#Censorship_and_surveillance

        The Italian Postal Police secretly searched A/I’s main server in 2004 and decrypted user content, which was discovered a year later through a document inquiry. In response, the collective adopted a redundant distributed server architecture.

        Then it should be easy to run it in some other domain. They’ve also been blocked off from donations, which is the motor that keeps them running. It’s easy to do that when your own government is part of the problem and won’t stand up for you or even engage in diplomatic actions. Just because the hegemony has the US at the top does not make it just about the US.

        Without addressing or even acknowledging the core political problems, just moving to a decentralized DNS system is just asking for more the next step in asset and personnel seizure and incarceration. Not that politically this is stopping the reactionary populists from increasingly classifying the “left” as a terrorist group: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/how-a-leftist-network-used-by-terrorists-operated-in-plain-sight-for-years/ar-AA2bct9u

        If you can’t or are unwilling to see this as part of a global movement, I don’t know what to tell you, the billionaire oligarchy representatives over at the Heritage Foundation couldn’t have been more clear, just like their influence.

  • Gsus4@mander.xyz
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    56
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    23 hours ago

    Wtf…they are putting these guys in the same bin as daesh and alqaeda…terrorism means nothing anymore. (probably the actual terrorists feel insulted)

    • Mrkawfee@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      35
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      21 hours ago

      Since the UK regime designated Palestine Action a terror group the average arrested terrorist is now a 60 year old white woman.

      The amount of repression going on is insane

    • 456456@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      33
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      22 hours ago

      It’s been like that since the start of the war on terror. The US can label anyone (including US citizens) they want as a terrorist and kill them and their family despite no due process.

    • Courtney (she/her/they) @lemmy.blahaj.zone
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      17
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      21 hours ago

      It’s honestly deligitimizing the word terrorism.

      It’s like the “war on drugs”. The DARE program (an anti-drug program cops run in schools) was the single best promoter of drugs I’ve ever seen. When they tell people all drugs will kill you and thc is just as bad as heroin, when you try a joint or vape for the first time and don’t get immediately addicted or die, you think “well I guess heroin and crack can’t be that bad either”

      If you call everything that’s against fascism, bigotry, and hate a “terrorist group” it really makes all the legitimate terrorism extremist groups look much tamer, and less people will think of them as terrorists.

        • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          8 hours ago

          You imagine. You sound like someone who’s either A), never struggled with addiction; or B), is currently struggling with addiction and just hasn’t realized it yet.

          “It’s won’t be that bad if I have self-control” is a lie that many addicts told themselves in the beginning. You hear people mention it all the time at recovery groups.

          The problem is that tiny little “if” is pulling several times more than its own weight in that sentence.

          • freely1333@reddthat.com
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            8 hours ago

            I sound more like the people who say if you want to lose weight you need to eat less. Which while true some people do not have the ability to follow through on. Of course I’ve never done heroin or crack - but I wager the people willing to do heroin or crack are the kind of people most likely to get addicted to it.

            Addiction is super fucked up but it’s not some sort of alien body snatcher that makes you have zero control of your actions.

        • You don’t have self-control when you start using them.

          When you’ve seen an otherwise rational, smart adult ruin their entire family and steal from their own children in order to get a fix after “just trying it once”, you understand all the self control in the world won’t be enough.