Man would it be funny watching Putin get thrown out of a window
I think it’d look something like this https://youtu.be/JGos7T0RKn8?t=160
I hear not attacking your neighbors does wonders for your longevity.
He would hang himself if only he had the balls to do so
Unpopular opinion: We should offer all dictators and their friends a safe retirement package.
Cornered dictators are dangerous. They will always keep escalating because the alternative isn’t just their neck on the block, it’s all of their friends and family too.
That’s exactly why total annihilation of a populace is always a bad idea. Putin sucks, but the world must be ready to integrate the Russian population after everything’s done or we’ll be back where we started in a few years. Germany taught that lesson, but look at all the historians crying in the corner.
I’ve been saying this for years. Perceived justice/punishment is not worth the lives of thousands of innocents.
Wait, prison isn’t a retirement package (of sorts)?
tried that with Napoleon - didnt stick
he was exiled. not exactly chopped.
Yes but that was supposed to be the magnanimous and merciful “safe retirement package” as an alternative to certain death at the hands of an executioner. Exile wasn’t a death sentence. Life definitely wouldn’t have been easy, but he had servants who joined him in exile to help keep him alive and happy.
Instead, he found a way back to France and the first army that arrived to intercept him immediately put themselves under his command again. That’s the danger of allowing warmongering dictators to have their cushy exit strategy - they may not see it as a way out of ultimate punishment, but as a reset button.
I’m less worried about that in this case. Napoleon was one of the greatest generals in human history, he was inspiring. Putin has been failing to conquer the poorest country in Europe for over four years.
With the frankly shocking number of Americans who espouse their unwavering support for Trump, no matter what he says or does, I have very little faith in humanity’s collective ability to judge leaders objectively.
Holy whoosh batman.
Gotta chat with air traffic controllers for how much airspace there is between you and this comment chain.
I don’t think most of them would do it if they had to give up their power and wealth.
It’s not for when things are going well. It’s for when their backs are against the wall. They are very heavily incentivtized to fight to the last no matter the cost.
this assumes rational motivation and decision-making.
It’s always rational at a personal level. Everyone thinks they’re doing the right thing for some combination of themselves, their friends and their allies.
It assumes a self preservation instinct. There’s plenty enough examples of escaping dictators that I think it’s a fair assumption
I absolutely agree. What good is retribution, in the face of all the untold future injustices and suffering that could be prevented by allowing dictators and their ilk to simply… stop being dictators?
At the end of the day, “just desserts” really aren’t all that they’re cracked up to be. Tasty as they may be, they are just desserts. Have a strudel or a pudding instead.
Putin had that posibiblty by not doing what he did, giving this option to them means they have no reason to not try this shit, I disagree firmly with this idea
Hey come on we all went a bit crazy and looked for a new hobby during covid /s
Agree. We all hate Putin, but he is the only person with the power to stop the war.
I appreciate the sentiment.
I disagree.
They have never hesitated to chop necks on blocks, why shouldn’t they be Romanoved out of the gene pool?
how about a free prescription for lake city quiet pills with unlimited refills?
We didn’t do such for Hitler and Mussolini.
Besides, Putin can take refuge in China or North Korea, maybe even Belarus, Cuba, or Nicaragua.
We didn’t do such for Hitler
Not so sure about that…
Mussolini, sure. Hitler may have died an old man in Argentina.
I don’t know man, this sounds good at first but think of how many thousands of lives would be saved if we let a handful of evil people go unpunished.
The most probable “punishment” that Putin is going to get at this rate is dying while sleeping without any pain.
Your lucky if they hang you Putin.
Think of how many people (Russian, Ukrainian or otherwise) who have lost a loved one because of this man’s selfishness.
How many people out of that group would give their lives to take his?
He might live the rest of his natural lifespan, but he’ll probably do most of it behind bulletproof glass and security cordons.
Exactly, won’t be much left to hang when they’re done with him
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One source said Putin believes ending the war without capturing at least all of the Donbas could threaten his survival.
Even if all of Donbas is captured, he had relegated all of Russia into irrelevance for generations to come. Russia will become a vassal to China. The future Russians will despise him for it. Putin may not personally care what people think of him, but he certainly cares what will happen to Russia’s prestige.
They will hang me
As they ought to
Can we chip in to buy the rope
There’s United24 for that, I think
(I am not a financial or geopolitical advisor, make sure to double-check before donating)
I bet that hanging video would rocket to #1 all time on every porn site, if uploaded.
It might only be beat by the orange menace’s death video.
I dunno, maybe they will poison you like an innocent couple from middle England you great soulless twat
I look forward to the day when Putin finally dies, I will pop a bottle of champagne if Putin dies
Imagine if Putin and Trump dies the same day.
Would be a world holiday for centuries to come
Haven’t done it in years, but that’s “impromptu weekend getaway with the boys” level of celebration for me.
same. and I don’t drink. ever.
I’m more of a port dude
I don’t like Putin.
About two weeks ago, another Penza resident reported that her 61-year-old husband, who has no teeth, suffers from hearing problems, and has a disabled arm, was summoned to the military enlistment office on Skladskaya Street. According to her, he was suffocated with a plastic bag and forced to sign a contract.
She said that her husband had previously fought in the war in 2022 and returned home after being wounded. Their son has also been mobilized.
.ml users will continue to support Russia and Putin though…
The average .ml user is even more detached from reality than Putin, Trump or any other politican.
Because theyre not on the front lines.
what part of Ukraine are you currently serving in?
One doesn’t have to be in Ukraine to help.
I am surprised they haven’t downvoted this comment yet.
The tankies tend to block lemmy.world.
It looks like there’s one who downvoted many people. I’m assuming it just hasn’t been seen by them yet. We’re also in .world, which is defederated from them, so they won’t see it without alts.
.world is not defederated with .ml
Is it not? I know it is from hexbear. I thought .ml was too. It’s hard to keep track of all that, especially since I’m from a different instance.
I’m on .world and I see .ml stuff.
lemmygrad.ml is defederated, not lemmy.ml
there are a lot of people that are quite far to the left on this instance, including me, because i want to engage with hexbear and also the normie stuff on the liberal subreddits, but it’s not a “tankie” instance like some people want to make it out to be when they get intellectually challenged by people outside of their comfy bubble.
it kinda sucks though, cus of some people that have lost the plot, pretty much everyone here who isn’t aggressively anti-china and anti-soviet union and think they have accomplished good things alongside some bad things, gets branded as an evil tankie or in some cases even what they call a “red fascist”.
a lot of people, especially from .world, when they see someone from .ml disagree with them on something, they start looking to fulfill their own criteria for a “tankie” and if they fill some of that criteria, they completely dismiss everything you say because you’re a “tankie” and that means you’re irrational and nothing that you say is worth considering. it really sucks, but it is what it is.
edit: but i’ll add that there are non far-left people on this instance too, people that don’t engage with the politics but have some other reasons to be here. it’s not a political instance, so that is going to be the case.
pretty much everyone here who isn’t aggressively anti-china and anti-soviet union
This is pretty indicative of the issue. The Soviet Union hasn’t existed for quite a while now! The people defending modern day authoritarian Russia are no Communists, or Marxist-leninists. They’re Authoritarians. They say they’re leftist, but they support the oligarchies oppressing the people. That is the furthest thing from leftist.
most of the people you’re talking about only support russia critically, as in support their anti-imperialist efforts.
i personally appreciate russia’s aid of iran against the united states and israel, alongside their support for cuba in this inhumane blockade by the united states and their fight against the ISIS in the sahel. that’s basically all i can appreciate them for. a lot of what they do is messed up
some people are of the opinion that the russian war on ukraine is an anti-imperialist act as ukraine was joining nato, but i disagree with this out of principle as i’m against all aggressive wars. i can see where they’re coming from, but i disagree with it.
a lot of people have this misconception that these claimed “tankies” are russia fans in everything they do, but in reality, their support for russia is quite limited. i recommend giving these people a good listen to get immersed in what they really believe in and clear your misconceptions
Defederation works the other way around…
They would be mad if they could read
It’s okay, nobody thought they weren’t shitheels anyway
Busification.
Edit: Lmao. That’s all it takes.
Something is coming we do not know about. 😏 The billionaire/ultra wealthy class have been erratic the past couple years, plundering all the wealth they can thinking it matters.
https://climatecasino.substack.com/p/a-hiroshimas-per-second-moment-of
https://science.nasa.gov/earth/explore/el-nino/
I wonder what could be coming that’s so bad they’re trying to buy their survival by building bunkers.
So are they going to nuke everyone first? No way they can disappear down a bunker right now and not expect their air holes to get plugged up.
One, every single one is in their 70s to 90s so it’s a matter of time before there’s a string of ‘sudden’ deaths and they can’t accept that so make everyone’s trouble.
Two, the apocalypse deadline was pushed ahead. Very likely, very unpredictable, very likely they want it to happen for far lesser reasons than we think.
Three, funni graph number must go up because that’s all they still remember and nothing else matters, including their own lives.
