All that work, and it’s a web wrapper.
When l was on it I saw no point in running it outside a browser tab
I use Vesktop, it has a flatpak release and flatpak auto-updates it for me. Also it includes Vencord, so I can add as many plugins and custom themes I want.
Why do you need to update so much, Discord? What the hell are you doing? Suspicious. Very suspicious.
Does the same on windows. Either they’re constantly changing some really deep stuff that we don’t see or notice, or it’s not actually updating just “checking” for updates or loading but it’s just slow AF.
Nah, this isn’t the launcher doing checks and applying patches, I mean like I gotta download a new .deb (basically .exe) file with an incremental difference in the version number and unpack it over the old install.
Ridiculously frequently. Like, once a week at the very least.
Okay Jesus, I think that’s just someone at discord smoking something.
Ever since the update where screen sharing works FINALLY natively in plasma I just used the flatpak discord
I have to use Discord Canary for that but yeah. Flatpak all the way.
Well that’s just their beta branch of discord, the main branch now has the screen share fix, been using it for a few months now
Idk about you, but for me Manjaro just auto manages that via AUR. dont even have to do anything.
Huh, why does it use the AUR for discord? In Arch it’s just part of the Extra repo.
That repo always seems to lag quite a bit behind official releases. Multiple times on arch I’ve edited config files to have it lie about its version number to get it to keep working.
Samesies, but on EndeavourOS
"SKIP_HOST_UPDATE": trueI don’t get it - on Mint I click the Discord icon and just use Discord, same as on Windows.
That’s mint tho. I’ve used it off and on for more than a decade myself and I’m still scared of other distros.
It really is baby’s first distro. Easy mode for someone coming from windows. And I love it for that. I really do. But im not a programmer. I would be lost as a mfer with some distros.
I am a programmer and I love Mint, because I can just use it instead of having one more thing in my life that I have to fuss with.
I think that’s often the case for anyone that has spent enough time using Linux. After 20 years, I just can’t be bothered with needing to be all that proactive in managing any distro. I just want to use the bloody stupid box. I’m enjoying using Aurora right now. Atomic distros require even less effort from me.
Yknow what this reminds me of? Chefs and how at work they make these masterpieces while at home they’re making like grilled cheese and slightly fancy ramen. Its great.
Like car mechanics have crappy cars that barely hold together.
Mint is for those who don’t need to brag about things.
For civilized folk, you know.
I see some recommendations for Vesktop in this thread.
For some reason, launching Vesktop’s Flatpak version presents a blank window. It worked perfectly fine a few weeks ago. Going back several versions doesn’t fix the problem.
Does anyone else have this issue? What doesn’t help is that the repo doesn’t have an issue tracker:
https://github.com/Vencord/Vesktop
Edit: Appimage version works just fine
Ran into that as well. Just use “repair vesktop” option from the right click menu on the icon when it’s running. That fixes it. You’ll stay logged in etc.
I think it’s an x11/Wayland incompatability issue.
I’ve had this issue too. I’m at work rn so I can’t provide an exact process. But on KDE I right click on Vesktop on the task bar and there is a “fix Vesktop” option that resolved it for me.
https://flathub.org/apps/com.discordapp.Discord
Packaging desktop apps via deb (or other system package managers) is obsolete and should be frowned upon.
cue the angry comments from cranky old people
@gamer @DesertDwellingWeirdo
>discord
>desktop apps
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Also, packaging electron to flatpak sounds most stupid idea ever…Sandboxing proprietary apps and containerising their outdated dependencies is a good thing.
@monogram is not electron already have sandbox?
Yes the built in browser sandboxes the website code, but the nodejs part has full freedom to encrypt your stuff and ask for bitcoin ransoms or ai scrape your browser history for better user profiling. YMMV
Why? The browser client is ok.
Not if you need system wide PTT
I fucking hate discord.
No wait.
I fucking hate the people who use discord.
Oh come on. This is every experience with linux.
I’ve been pretty deep in linux for years and never seen this.
In all honesty I just use the browser now as that’s been the best experience with Discord for me.
Third party apps are way better than the native client
When I do, audio slowly shifts to one ear only, perhaps over 20m. Then I have to leave the channel and come back to reset it. This does not happen anywhere else, and also doesn’t happen on the desktop app, so I have to use that.
Yup this. Tho if matrix gets desktop streaming I’m gone.
Element already has desktop streaming as an experimental feature. Worked fine last i tested it. Currently planning how to trick my social circle into using it.
I also want to go check out the new TeamSpeak, it’s supposed to be a decent Discord alternative - Even though Discord originally replaced it.
That’s great news. Well now discord rewards users for viewing ads, it’s looking like time to leave soon.
I fucking hate discord. Hope they ruin it.
Discord was really good in the first couple years. Way better than the alternatives in almost everything except sound quality. And getting virusses wasn’t as easy as it was on TeamSpeak3 back then.
Thats the thing…there’s no way ill convince people to get off discord now that they just got comfortable with it all.
Fr, I have tried but unfortunately my friends are mostly normal people
Yeah exactly or they just say we are trying to be superior and annoying tech autists xD
I have been using Discord since the beginning in 2015 and back then I got people to Discord because it was cheap and offered more features. Currently the only way I convince people to swtich from Discord (or from Whatsapp) is either if they are privacy focussed or the alternative is way more convient or cheaper.
How did you solve the audio issue with element for Linux?
Element has audio issues on Linux? Didn’t notice it when I tested whether Matrix had what I needed (a month past). I’ll see if it screws up if I try again now.
Audio doesn’t seem to stream over Element regardless of operating system, I’m on Debian 12 and my buddies are on Windows, neither stream audio.
Also Mobile devices lack streaming out-right.
That’s weird. I just tested it with a friend (I’m on Endeavour, she’s on Win11, the server is VPS with Debian running the newest Synapse and Element-web). Audio works fine both ways with no mic config required, streaming is a little laggy when viewing the screen and stream next to each other, but that’s all.
EDIT: No, you’re right. Audio within streams seem to fail. I remember Discord having the same problem (hence why I use Vesktop), but if Windows also suffers this shortcoming? I’m pretty sure I remember it working a month ago, so there should be a bug report in Synapse (or element).
This has been an issue for over 4 years. not sure why it seems to be neglected by the maintainers/contributors.
Edit: Maybe it was patched? I don’t have the time at the moment to dive deep into this topic, will try to get back to this later today.
Edit 2: briefly looking around seems like this persisted in 2023
get fluffychat :)
When you use the Discord app, you use a browser - Chromium specifically: Discord is an electro app.
In other word, if you already run a browser that burns hundreds of megabytes of RAM, disk, and requires tons of CPU do display simplistic things, as browsers do, you might as well use it to access Discord instead of running a second insanely wasteful browser disguised as a native app.
Vesktop
Discord has become really annoying to use with all the ads. I confine it to my browser because I don’t trust it.
With that said, I used to run Flatpak version and it never had this issue.
Oh shit I forgot that was an option lmao. Deleting the app once I get home lol
Same! Never have to worry about updates anymore its great!
Recently, while it was “out of date” and refusing to run but not yet updated in the Arch repo, I started wondering why I don’t just use the website. I now use the website.
My experience with Discord, period:
That’s why I use third party apps
Thank God im not the only one. I feel like I’m going crazy when all my friends do nothing but worship discord.
Not at all. I loathe discord with a passion. I can’t understand how such a unintuitive piece of software gained such mainstream acceptance.
What do you find unintuitive? Of all the complaints I personally never found it unintuitive to use.
Everything? It’s hard to describe, but anytime I want to do anything, it just seems like the menu is in the wrong spot, or I have to jump through hoops to do what needs to get done.
That would be from the 8 redesigns they’ve done in the past year or so. Not going to praise the dumpster fire, but intuitiveness has not been an issue for most of discords common uses. If you were incessantly messing with settings of a server though, that’d track.
Oh, this is day one, I have loaded it up like once in the last year. I’m not the only one who says it either. Back in the day on reddit, I’d post about it and would always have tons of people agree.
I can deal with Gimp and all kinds of alt versions of popular software all day long with minimal hassle learning new UI. Discord, for being the most popular software of its platform, for some reason, just doesn’t click for me. Why ventrillo didn’t keep the crown amazes me.
I’ll just go back to being the old man yelling at the clouds.
I fail to see Discord as anything other than IRC with too many emojis and primary colors for the short of attention span, implemented as a humongous pile of Web 2.0 nonsense, with Big Data surveillance built in.
Privacy and resource comsumption issues notwithstanding, the few times I’ve had to use it to connect with people in certain communities that could basically only be found on Discord, it was unbearable to this gen-Xer: it’s just as fast and as shallow as IRC, but somehow I feel the extra symbolic and color overload would have triggered a seizure if I was epileptic. It’s maddering.
Oh well, maybe I’m old.
My understanding is that the core appeal is that they provide free private VoIP service, which was something that a lot of people wanted for multiplayer games.
I don’t use that, and like you, I have not been very impressed with their chat stuff.
I’ve never really seen that much color on it, but I use dark mode so its basically just dark gray and white font, we transitioned from slack a few years ago when I joined a community for drone stuff but over time people stopped flying drones and played games more
~/.config/discord/settings.json
"SKIP_HOST_UPDATE": true,
Ooohh a useful response.
Wait seriously? Does this stop it from forcing me to update it when an update is available but it’s not in my package manager yet?
Yes. I can confirm, it works even on Gentoo. But I stick to the Flatpak version, anyway, because there I was able to tell it to use Xwayland instead of wayland directly (through Flatseal).
It seems the wayland support isn’t great yet and it tries to grab keys combination that are reserved for my window manager (Gnome). In the flatpak sandbox I don’t have any issues.
Only game running game detection will not work in the sandbox.
Or is there even a setting to tell it, using the X11 backend so that the keybind issues for the native version go away?
