Basically just something people say that indicates a position indirectly, like how seperatists from a given region might always say they’re from [region] and not [country] or how trump supporters call AI “SI” now.
I’ll contribute. I refer to my wife as my “partner”.
People on the left just continue conversation no problem. People on the right pause and you can see the wheels turning.
I’m a white not very masculine male.
Very good example, thank you, whenever someone says “partner” I immediately assume they’re at least somewhat woke.
Okay, but what if they also have some ridiculous 10 gallon hat on?
I’m from Texas, so it works both ways… Pardner hat tip 🤠
I’m from Oklahoma, I wear a ten gallon hat most days to work my acreage, to walk my doggies, when I have to work markets, and I’m so woke the coffee needs me to get it up early in the morning.
When they say “property” on the other hand…
They might just use the English language correctly.
Woke is in partners with grammar
Partner sounds more serious than boyfriend or girlfriend anyway.
“No, don’t worry, Mr. Conservative. I’m male, she’s female, your norms aren’t being broken yet.”
“…Yeh, but partner implies she’s your equal. That don’t sit right.”EXACTLY 🙄
The first time a friend referred to me wife as my “partner”, I questioned his choice of words because he was well aware that I’m not gay.
Like, I would still just carry on in convo, but if I hear “partner”, I make a mental note that they’re gay. The correlation has close to a 100% hit rate.
Hetero people who don’t believe in marriage and/or don’t like husband/wife titles sometimes use titles like partner too because girlfriend/boyfriend doesn’t sound serious enough I guess. Common amongst my social circle but I get why it’s usually a dog whistle.
Also literally everyone in Europe
“partner” sounds like you’re lawyers. just make up a word, or take one from another language. we use “sambo”.
We have a perfectly good word in the English language, it’s “partner”
“partner” sounds like you’re lawyers. just make up a word, or take one from another language. we use “sambo”.
We have a perfectly good word in the English language, it’s “partner”
It doesn’t work quite as well in English
…no, no it does not. wow.
You know what’s funny about that? A lot of my hetero friends also say partner.
I started using it because it removes the baggage that gendered terms carry. My wife is my best friend. I like to do everything with her. We split chores pretty evenly.
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Gawd but he NAILED me. Listening to Wait Wait and rasing chickens. Which are, btw, fantastic for making compost.
They’re also good for making sure no food ever goes to waste. They eat anything and turn it into eggs. Gotta love yard birds.
RIGHT? It either goes to the dogs or the birds. It’s fantastic.
Dude municipal compost is fucking amazing.
Trash doesn’t smell anymore.
The voters pamphlet was full of them. “Common sense family values” means they hate trans/gays. “Law and order” means they support ICE. “Activist judges have gone too far” means they want to be an activist judge but for the other side of the issue.
I would consider all of those Nazi dogwhistles nowadays. There is no courtesy left for the right, it is very clear what kinds of fucked up shit they support
Argued with someone that their use of “common sense” was a dog whistle… Sure enough, their next line was about the “family vote”…
This was in response to a Trans Rights comment chain. Like wtf is the “family vote”? Trans people have families too.
Family vote = man of the house votes and women don’t vote anymore. No, they don’t acknowledge anything other than the stereotypical husband, wife, and 2.5 children as deserving a vote.
ITT people talking about Nazi dog whistles
I was voting and one of the people I looked up for judge had “EMPATHY” as a big point for her, considering a lot on the right have said empathy is bad/a weakness/the problem and judges are supposed to be nonpartisan I considered it to be a dog whistle. She also had a lot of good stuff in her background but having EMPATHY in big bold letters seemed purposeful
I’m a self proclaimed crazy cat lady. I also work in a field that has a lot of interaction with the police. I used to have a pin attached to my work badge that said “All Cats Are Beautiful”.
What? I just love cats ;)
Now I’m thinking about making badges that say “Assigned Child At Birth”.
This took me a while
I always throw an occasional “streets ahead” in my conversation just to see if they’re a Community watcher. Most of the people around me are streets behind, though.
it’s like giving them an all tomato.
You either take all the tomato, or none of it
That’s usually when I use my escape goat.
They may be a community watcher, or they may be British. Further investigation required.
My favorite example is how francophone leftists or those who dislike america will call americans “USians”. (Américain -> États-Unien)
I call people from the US that as I respect the other nations in the Americas who are also Americans - from Chilean people to Canadian. All American. Neither of them USian.
But, I do also hate US Defaultism because it shows a lack of knowledge/understanding/awareness which only plays into the stereotypes that people from the US are stupid and ignorant. Which I think is disparaging to (some of) them, and they could show they aren’t by being using self-aware language. Hence, “USian” . It’s like how “woke” originated too - i.e. “awake” to institutional bigotry.
I have tried to start using US Americans but have used USians in the past for brevity. For the same reasons, though.
I’ve started using “USA” and “USA citizens”. They’re not the only united states or the only Americans.
No one but those from the US claim the term “American”. Canadians do not want to be called American, and everyone else speaks a whole different language, and they prefer to be referred to by their county as well
It’s not US defaultism, it’s like calling someone from China Asian, or worse Oriental. It’s not woke, no one will thank you for calling them by a label you’ve assigned to them as an outsider
It’s only ever done online, if you’re taking to people irl, it’s obvious via context. But online is global so it makes sense to talk in a global sense.
But in a global sense, if you say American people know who or what you’re talking about
I do agree that American defaultism only hurts them, but at least in english it’s rare enough that saying “American” doesn’t count as US defaultism imo, I’m in Québec and I’d say at least 20% of people here say that.
yeah someone was talking to me like. well its not the name. the name is the united states of america. and im like. well its the republic of ireland but people just call it ireland. lots of countries have a sorta descritive official name with elements of what it is.
The corollary would be calling Ireland “The Republic”.
or I gues republiasian or something. maybe trasian. but yeah the republic would be like the united states. thinking about it its kinda wierder we use the united states often instead of america.
Ehhhh I’m an anglophone USian, and use “USian”. Am leftist though so maybe you’re onto something lol
I’ve never heard someone say that irl, although I have seen it on lemmy, but I’ve heard tons of people say the french equivalent irl, which is why I said it was francophones. It is based to say it in english though.
I don’t know French very well, but it seems like it works better, grammatically speaking, in French than in English.
Yes 100%, it’s incredibly clunky in english but in french it’s just as nice to say as the “American”
I usually call them the Cheeseburger people from Burgerstan
At least that’s funny
what a strange assumption to make.
Well, those were the stated reasons of everyone I asked.
wait, literally? you asked “why do you say ‘usian’” and they’ve responded “je hateux vouz guys”? i’ve always used terms like that because “american” seems too broad. i use “north/central/south” american" when referring to larger divisions, and us american when talking about the country specifically.
i honestly took it as word play. I do word play all the time so I don’t think to deep about anything. maybe im dog whistling as I use trump for shit, ass, fuck and I have been considering adding cunt.
one shibboleth i noticed is that any mention of “race” strongly indicates that the person speaking is American, especially if it’s conflated with nationalities. “I’m [number]% [nationality]”, any use of “mixed race”, and stuff like “I can drink a lot of beer because I’m German” or “this recipe offends me as an Italian” are dead giveaways (and quite racist in my humble opinion)
After the big protests in France there were a million bots posting racist stuff on Reddit. They kept referring to “liberals” but none speaks like that in France. Liberal is the word you’d use to describe corpo-centrists like Macron, never to describe leftists.
It was kind of like the 3 fingers meme from inglorious bastards.
Are those dog whistles? I think of dog whistles as conveying a specific message to those in the know.
The examples you gave seem more like shibboleths - something that can be used to identify or rule out being part of an identity group.
Calling taiwan “taiwan” instead of china marks the speaker as not from the PRC, but it doesn’t send a specific message the way that republicans would say “welfare cheats” when they meant “black people”, trusting their base understands.
Yeah you’re right I did mean shibboleths, just didn’t know the term, sorry, should I edit the post?
Yeah, as @[email protected] said, the meaning is clear.
It’s such a fun word and i think it’s such a neat concept, but it’s annoying to use in a title cause it’s quite a rare word. But i find that once there’s a name for it, it’s way easier to notice it, so i like to mention it.
Where i live we pronounce couch st and schuyler st as cooch and skyler, and the police dept is the police bureau. Not knowing these things is used as a shibboleth that marks visiters.
Perfect examples.
No, everyone else knew what you meant.
TIL the correct word for this, good comment.
“If you know what I mean 😉” is probably the most common one.
No, Frank, exactly what is it that you feel uncomfortable saying but forces you to make everyone else think it?
Not so much a position as preferences and experiences, but the words people use to describe elements of music can often give away what they either enjoy or play. If you call a rhythm a beat, you’re probably into electronic or hip hop. If you refer to a song’s chord progression as “the changes,” you must like jazz. If you use Italian words (outside of Italy I guess!) to talk about tempo and dynamics, you were either in an orchestra or fondly remember that one time at band camp. If a phrase is a “strain,” you should get your lungs checked out. If the bridge is the “middle eight,” get a colonoscopy while you’re at it.
What happens if you ask for a double bass pedal at a practice room?
That sounds like the beginning of a joke. If it is, what happens?
“Eat the rich.”
Only two kinds of people say it.
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Those disenfranchised by capitalism
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Literal cannibals that don’t understand the slogan and would also eat the poor
Bulshit. Some of us cannibals understand rich people taste far better than poor people.
Joke aside which of the two groups do you place Motörhead in?
Ventrue vampires would agree with you.
- Those who enjoy movies starring Lemmy Kilmister
Had an English teacher that would consistently use that phrase while explaining grammer etc.
In what way does this qualify as “indirect”
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Not quite related but in a lovecraft book “mountains of madness” I think…
He mentions a “war of resubjegation” which I loved. One phrase tells a story. There was a slave revolt. If the slaves won it would be called “war of freedom” or “the rebellion”
War of re-subjugation lets you know how that war ended.
There’s no point in non-nazis using dog whistles when the right has made a cottage industry of convincing themselves that every innocuous phrase like “happy holidays” is a left-wing dog whistle anyway.
Jingle bells, homie. ✌️
Jingle Bells is a Thanksgiving song!
Where am I?
ITT: whole lotta Nazi dog whistles …
Yeah. Maybe a lot of people skimmed the headline and thought it said “neo-nazi” instead of “non-nazi”?
I think the prequel trilogy is better than the original trilogy is just a dog whistle for not listening to someone talk about Star Wars.
I prefer the prequels 😔
I like a very specific cross section of Starwars. Lightsaber design, force powers, droids, mandalorian lore. That is the standard I judge by and that puts the cartoon, prequals, and Solo movie above the originals.
