folks,i know this is OT but i decided to post here as i’m sure there are a lot of people here that work in IT and know what thay are talking about. The recent MS failure is what i would like your opinion on.
from what I’ve seen, MS declared that a bunch of servers went offline and the load had to be spread on remaining servers. They fail to identify what caused the first bunch of servers encountering issues and they claim it was mot related to a hacker attack (why would they, it would lead to massive panic and distrust). So, then what caused the issue in the first place? Could it have been a piloted denail of service attack?
I’m sure the truth will emerge in coming days but was interested in the more tech savy people’s opinione. In the meantime i rejoyce for not having to depend of third party infrastructure at home, thanks to my little homelab.
A further consideration is that this does once again prove that companies that put all their eggs in one basket, are at yhe mercy of big tech. i experienced this personally at works where comunication by Teams and Outlooks was pretty much halted for hours.
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fire 20% of their personnel
slopify
things fail
Sounds like a closed case to me.
Maybe the real treasure was the stock price growth we made along the way?
“we”? XD
Info about the root cause: https://infosec.exchange/@k3ym0/117607080678996785
Brillant! If only it were true and confirmed. MS stock prices would plumet …
I blame Jensen’s leather jacket. It’s clearly way too powerful.
EDIT: There’s…a 3rd mistress now? Giggity.
I’m sure it all came down to poor upper management decisions which they will try to blame on technology
Or on the poor lower level man that forgot to follow procedures …
this does once again prove that companies that put all their eggs in one basket, are at yhe mercy of big tech.
I am certainly no Microsoft lover, but 12-24hrs of downtime every few years seems like a highly reliable system compared to the cost of rolling your own software stack for the majority of companies.
If this event turns out to be a harbinger of what’s to come I’ll change my tune but I would be shocked if this single period of downtime led to a shift away from Outlook.
There’s a lot more downtime than that. It’s just that most of them are limited in size or scope, and don’t generate headlines. I’m pretty sure their service status page is public. Services are frequently degraded for a subset of users.
but 12-24hrs of downtime every few years seems like a highly reliable system
- We don’t call it o351 because it has ‘12-24hrs of downtime every few years’.
- In the enterprise space, the target is a few minutes each year.
I’m sure this day loss of productivity and not even a total outage will have everyone hiring teams to run their email. I’m sure it’ll be cheaper and definitely more reliable 🙄
Y’all really don’t understand how the money flows or how expensive it is to run this shit.
This community isn’t really the place for pragmatic takes on this kind of stuff. It’s largely homelab style hobbyists that have no idea about running anything for more than maybe 2-3 people (probably solo in most cases).
Unfortunately none of the actual professional communities from reddit seem to have active equivalents on Lemmy.
As if r/sysadmin has any actual professional admin actively posting?
Y’all really don’t understand how the money flows
The money flows from Microsoft to schools and universities to condition them them to think MS is the only option and then from Microsoft to non-tech people in deciding positions as bribes and favours so they decide to pay MS a fortune for shitty SAAS. It’s basically corruption used as an investment.
or how expensive it is to run this shit
Oh, you meant that side of the money… Yeah, not expensive at all. There is a reason everybody can get email for free or for very little money if you need advanced functions and active service. And there is a reason the big providers are now basically running with whitelists only, because every idiot and their mom can run their own service. There is a reason why simple office solutions you can also get for free are nowadays –like so many other things– porvided as SAAS: to make money off idiots and paid morons.
Do you really think a self hosting community has no idea how difficult and time consuming self hosting email is?
100% yes. Absurdly common in tech
Yes, this is basically a bunch of home lab enthusiasts. There’s nothing wrong with that but doing it for even a small business of 50 people is extremely different in terms of requirements.
At the moment, we can only guess. My guess: an update (maybe of a load balancer) went wrong. We will never know for sure.
Maybe this is theproblem with big tech. They will never confess and what strikes me is that businesses and governments just won’t wake up
I’m sure the truth will emerge in coming days but was interested in the more tech savy people’s opinione.
Why speculate when you will get it dfrom the horses mouth in a couple days?
But my 2¢ is a bad code being deployed.
Because the horse lies
I think it is a cascading effect some unmaintained and forgotten server gave out causing others to fall.
Thats what think not based on any facts.
