Proposed legislation behind the impending US government shutdown contains provisions that would ban federal funding for transgender adults, as well as youngsters.
Mike Johnson shut the government down to prevent the release of the Epstein files. Full stop.
I don’t understand this at all healthcare in America is private so what the fuck does the government have to “worry” about? They are not paying for any of this.
The. Cruelty. Is. The. Point.
I’ve never seen such hate in a politician.
Really crazy how any other spaces but lemmy they’re saying this is the democrats fault.
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How many kids did this fucker rape??? Every day it’s a new horrid thing to try and distract us from the fact He Raped Children!
Yeah I’m pretty positive that he himself was a trafficker. Not just a client. Also a lot of the girls are likely dead.
I bet that is what is being hidden. Because it’s worse than what people think it is.
Maga is already ok with him being a pedo as long as it was girls.
So it has to be much worse than that.
Trump rounds trans people up into death camps
“another attempt to distract us from the Epstein files!”
Mass rapist demands human beings give up their rights just doesn’t have the same ring to it.
Good. Do it. The government ain’t doing shit for people who actually need help anyways.
I’m in one of those, fucked either way cases. If the government doesn’t shut down, I lose my healthcare, if it does shut down I potentially lose my job since I work for the government.
Hey! A fellow gov worker! So, how’s the last 6 months been stress shitting your guts out and expecting to be fired every day? Because I’m sure as fuck not having a good time and want off this god damned ride.
The worst part is I’m fairly new, I accepted the job offer before the election and started it after the election. The hope day I accepted the job offer and the dread of starting first day was quite disparate.
Funnily enough, I was a government worker shortly before Trump took over. The highlights included gaslighting me on my rights as a worker, telling me not to rock the boat, then shitcanning me when I filed grievances with my union. The very same union that refused to go to bat for me because “arbitrations are expensive”.
Also having my eyes opened to the absolutely ludicrous waste generated by government operations. I saw brand new 24 inch computer monitors still sealed in the box thrown in the trash, but I was simply told “there is no government waste” when I asked what was going on. Seeing a forklift bought for a single job before being “scrapped” was also wild.
Honestly, do yourself a big favor and look for a transfer to private sector. I’ve got a union that actually listens to me now and better benefits than a fed. Couldn’t be happier.
The very same union that refused to go to bat for me because “arbitrations are expensive”.
What the fuck
Sounds like government workers need a new union. Not that they’d ever get it, I assume, particularly if it poses a risk of actually being able to do something rather than just serving as a scapegoat to point at why unions are useless.
It’s not enough to catch your employer breaking the law. It’s not even enough to have a mile wide paper trail leading anyone with eyes to the evidence of your employer breaking the law. When your employer is the government, every single person involved is directly incentivised to protect the employer from any and all indication that they could have possibly done anything wrong, ever.
This includes your union rep, who is still paid by the very same tax dollars you are paid with, though in a round about way.
Oh trust me I’ve been working on it. I’m not at all surprised by your story, I knew the DOGE shit was complete bs.
Sorry you’re in that position. I can’t believe this is where were at. Who non millionaire could possibly be on the presidents side on this one?
SHUT IT THE FUCK DOWN. WE DO NOT NEGOTIATE WITH FASCIST TERRORISTS.
Shut this shit down for good at this point. Worthless ass government.
I hope he shuts down the government, honestly… It might limit how much damage he does.
I honestly don’t think he even knows what shutting down the government actually means. I’m betting he thinks it’s just the poors not getting access to essential services, which he’s probably fine with. I’m positive he doesn’t realize that it cuts off literally every perk except for secret service that he gets as president. The entire White House staff will be sent home except for executives and unpaid interns.
I’m pretty certain you’re correct.
I’ve been loosely following along (I am not an American), and I did not realize the consequences myself. Holy shit, he’s basically halting paycheques for a lot of the people working directly and indirectly for the government.
I feel bad for those people. Hopefully they have enough to weather this storm until Taco gets advised that this action is fucking stupid as all hell.
Honestly, at this point the government already is shut down. It’s been shut down for months. We’re just still in the denial stage. Trump’s claimed and a criminally corrupt SCOTUS has endorsed Trump just refusing to pay funds allocated by Congress. There is absolutely zero point in Democrats negotiating with Republicans on this, as Trump can just refuse to pay any Democratic priorities they fund.
I have to admit, you speak the truth.
The entire White House staff will be sent home except for executives and unpaid interns.
As long as one of those interns will bring him McDonalds, he won’t care.
Can it be blamed on the Dems? Alternatively, will it trigger the libs? He’s fueled by spite and grift
Can or can’t doesn’t really matter to Trump. He will blame Democrats he will blame Biden he will blame “antifa” and he will blame immigrants. Trump is inherently incapable of taking responsibility for anything. He will just pick a group or person, usually one that is particularly irritating to him in that moment, and he will shove all the responsibility for everything that’s going wrong on them.
I was being rhetorical. He can and he’s backed by legacy and new media. Goebbels built Nazi propaganda “in a cave with a box of scraps”, imagine what can be done with AI, bots and social media.
The Democrats should threaten shut the government down unless they release the Epstein files. Fuck it all, make the Republicans have to tell their constituents they were willing to shut the government down to protect the Pedophile in Chief
They can’t since some of them are on the files themselves.
That would require the democrats to act as an actual opposition party, which they have basically never done.
EDIT: I apologize, I must make a correction, the democrat party did act as an actual opposition party from approximately 1861 until the early 20th century, but I don’t think anyone should cite that as a proud example.
So wait…. You’ll shut down the biggest thing that has been causing everyone so much grief?
Don’t threaten us with a good time. Also;
WE DON’T NEGOTIATE WITH TERRORISTS.
Cis people should be scared about this too. Things like supplementing estrogen (for woman after they have gone through menopause) or testosterone is a quite normal thing. Im betting my ass, that this regulations will affect these things too.
While I understand it’s not ok to give in here, this is just an attempt to move the battle. There’s no need to justify defending human rights here (for any decent humans) but don’t let it distract us. We can’t waste time arguing this. Don’t let them move the goalposts. This is just “no” and return to the larger fight
Laws don’t bind the in-group
Until they move the in-group. Which they’ll do if they continue to get their way. They have to keep projecting power like this to keep this up, and they’ll continue to grind through subgroups of the population to do it.
The in-group is wide enough that the people at the edges are hit with the splatter when the guy at the top takes another dump.
If he makes it illegal to even provide estrogen or testosterone to patients, hospitals won’t stock it.
You’re not wrong, but you forgot that the in-group always shrink.
Also, it is usual for fascists to throw others “under the bus” as a way to save their own face.
Except that the in-group is constantly shifting, to ensure there’s always an enemy to rally the masses against. The only consistently protected group is the rich.
IDK how dumb this idea is, but what if Trump/Republicans that align with him are trying to cause a shutdown to take advantage of the chaos somehow and blame it on the Democrats, and part of the reason for sending the military to Portland/LA was to anger the Democrats enough to not fold?
Of course they are going to blame the Democrats. That was never not the play, lol.
Going to? They already are. Check out the HUD webpage:
Yes, millions losing healthcare and an autocratic regime are the democrats fault. the shutdown will be the democrats fault. If they don’t cave, mass permanent firings are the democrats fault. Now it democrats decision whether to insist on medical rights for a marginalized population vs insist on medical rights for millions of low income people.
It’s all projection, blame, outrage, and will only end when those forms of manipulation stop working
It’s not a dumb idea, it’s almost certainly what’s occurring, with the caveat that I don’t think they actually want to shut the government down. Whenever you hear about an impending government shutdown, it is always a game of political chicken, trying to find out who will cave first, while simultaneously trying to preemptively sell the public that it’s the other party’s fault. Look at the messaging from the white House and congressional majority leadership. It’s all “oooh the Democrats aren’t willing to pass our super clean funding bill to keep the government open, they are unserious and willing to hold the American people hostage in order to continue mutilating babies”. Meanwhile, Democrats state (accurately) that Republicans need Democrat votes to pass anything, therefore it is incumbent upon them to negotiate in good faith.
There’s nothing more antithetical to Trumpism than good faith negotiation and compromise, so he’s doing everything in his power to avoid that, lest it appear like he had to cave to Schumer, to include cancelling the meeting they had scheduled last week in favor of doing the meeting today, at the 11th hour, to further pressure the Dems into capitulating.
Now, it’s important to note that, for all of the political brinkmanship on display, shutting down the government is, historically, far more damaging for the majority party than the minority, though the public tends to take a dim view of everyone involved in this sort of situation. Therefore, Dems have reason to stand fast and Republicans have an incentive to make concessions. This is in addition to the fact that Schumer got a lot of flak for instructing Dems to fund the government back in the spring, so he’s also likely motivated to feign some backbone in this particular tete a tete.
I consider the occupation of certain cities to be mostly unrelated to the funding fight. In fact, it would have behooved Trump to not antagonize Dems leading up to this for the aforementioned reasons. With that being said, Trump doesn’t do things according to what makes political sense, and, to your point, I can see a scenario where Trump is the only person at the negotiation table today who is totally ambivalent about whether a deal is struck or not. A local (Republican) representative was quoted with a statement to the effect of, “I’m not sure if the Dems have considered the fact that the Presidency is granted additional powers in the event of a budget related shutdown, maybe they should think about that”.
So, you’ve got Dems at the table who are motivated to follow through with a shutdown unless they get certain carve outs. You’ve got congressional Reps at the table who are aware that the American public has historically always blamed the party in power when a shutdown occurs, and are thus motivated to make concessions, but quietly. And then you’ve got Trump et al, who gain additional emergency powers in the event of a shutdown, further diminishing the legitimacy of the other branches of government and increasing the consolidation of power within the executive branch. However, if the government doesn’t shut down, Trump will likely spin this as yet another example of his brilliant negotiating ability (see also the Gaza peace plan released this week), even if there’s a snowballs chance in hell that any concession appears in further funding bills the next time this occurs.
Idk if any of that holds any water in the face of evidence, but it’s compelling speculation.
There is no 5D chess from this administration. They’ve proven themselves time and time again to be greedy and incompetent.
Put down the tack board and red thread. Not everything is part of a conspiracy. Not everything is connected. Not everything is a distraction from the Epstein files. Not everything is part of some grand plan. The fascists are perfectly capable of doing multiple awful things at once, each for their own independently awful reason.
Threatening violence on your opponent’s territory right before you have to negotiate with them is stupid though unless you have a reason to want things to escalate
Shut his ass down so the rest of the world can get on with good living
