If you don’t, no need to reply telling me you don’t. I live in the woods with some critters. I live pretty far from neighbors/police so having a gun gives me peace of mind. I also hunt and consider myself a gun hobbiest. I enjoy shooting targets, cleaning/organizing, reloading and earning food with guns.
Want.
Lifelong anti-gun libtard here.
I think guns are primarily for people who fear. I think fear is the primary motivator for firearm ownership. I would like to live in a society where fear doesn’t push people to own firearms. That is not our reality. That is not the society we live in.
There are masked, unqualified paramilitary federal goons entering our communities and harassing and assaulting AMERICAN CITIZENS. I passed my history classes. I enjoy reading up on history in my own personal time. I know where things like this often lead, and I’ve come to accept that it’s time to arm myself. A significant portion of our populace also supports what is happening and would be perfectly fine with people like myself, who want everyone to have healthcare, a good education, and to be fed, being “removed” from this plane of existence. These people are everywhere. I understand that they are not actively going out and killing people like me, but they are voting to persecute and harm people like me and the people I care about.
That’s enough for me to arm myself out of fear.
I don’t believe this to be a good society. I don’t believe this to be an intelligent society. I don’t believe this to be a safe society going forward.
I haven’t purchased a firearm yet, but I’ve been out shooting with friends a number of times and I’ve been asking questions to get ready for the process of acquiring at least one.
Liberal-libertarian here- I think the married gay couple should have AR15s to defend their marijuana crop and adopted children from attack, confident in the knowledge that single payer healthcare will be there if they get hurt.
I also follow history, at least a little. And I think even a light perusal of the last 100ish years should be enough to show anyone that ‘it can’t happen here’ / ‘it won’t happen here’ are foolish attitudes, as the current situations are demonstrating.
I’m curious if you regret your past support of anti-gun policies, knowing that they are directly making it harder for you to acquire a gun for self-defense today?
And FWIW if you have any gun questions or want to know anything about specific guns, safety, culture, etc please feel free to reply or DM me.
I’m curious if you regret your past support of anti-gun policies
Not really.
I’d prefer to live in a society that doesn’t perpetuate enough fear to cause people to desire firearms for self defense. Those societies do exist. And 10+ years ago things weren’t as they are now in America. The situation has degraded. We could have gone down another path that could have led to less fear and gun ownership, but that’s not the future we chose for ourselves.
So I’ve had to shift my expectations. That’s why I don’t really regret advocating against guns in the past. I still don’t like them. I still think more guns will cause more problems. But our society is becoming more ignorant and our decisions are going to lead to more people being more destitute and more desperate, which will increase crime, as political violence also increases, so the bottom line is you have to protect yourself.
I’d prefer to live in a society where no guns are ever needed.
The problem is, you can’t predict the future.I’d prefer to live in a society that doesn’t perpetuate enough fear to cause people to desire firearms for self defense. Those societies do exist. And 10+ years ago things weren’t as they are now in America. The situation has degraded. We could have gone down another path that could have led to less fear and gun ownership, but that’s not the future we chose for ourselves.
But that’s my point. 10+ years ago, you wouldn’t have predicted this. 10+ years ago, you’d have fought to restrict or remove gun rights. And now here we are, if you and those like you had succeeded, you wouldn’t be able to buy a gun.
That’s why I think gun rights (including yours) are so important, and why I hope you (someday) regret your previous anti-gun advocacy. Because however great our society is at any point in time, it can always get bad again. And the question is when that happens, do we want to have proverbially shot ourselves in the foot by removing our own means of self-defense? I say no.
Thus, if I may be a bit silly, an image for when you go into the gun store and have the right to buy that gun:
:D
I would argue that the ideal is a society where guns are readily available, but rarely needed. Might you agree with that?
For me firearm ownership is about responsibility and independence. If you’re going to eat meat, you should participate in the process and understand what it means. If you don’t trust the state with a monopoly on violence, you should be a part of distributing that power as widely as possible. Guns are one of the most powerful tools in the modern world, and I value them for the same reasons I value my drill or computer: they expand my capabilities.
If the fasciats are going to try to kill me I will take at least one with me.
I think they are interesting from a mechanical perspective.
Police don’t show up quickly enough to deal with a serious threat, so I have a firearm for home defense. Just one. Not into collecting, whether firearms or anything else.
Need
With the political environment in the US I am increasingly feeling unsafe and feel like a gun is almost a must have now
Want, we have coyotes and I have a small dog. They usually stay away when I’m around but the last time they barely turned tail once I aggressively went to engage them after picking my dog up. He’s always on a leash but I feel more comfortable carrying a .22 with me when we go out after dark during the winter after that last encounter.
I had the same concern and instead got a big dog to watch over my small dog, my kids too but like also my small dog.
Great Pyrenees.
The coyotes don’t even come around anymore. 95lbs of the laziest guard dog ever is enough to deter them. And so good with the kids - they can lay on her and she don’t give a fuck. Though she can move when she needs to - I’ve seen her in action.
Best part is that she is always ready. I don’t gotta walk around with a gun, or run to get it from the safe. She is always there guarding us.
That said. The gun would have definitely been cheaper in the long run. My dog’s food budget quadrupled.
That sounds like the most incredible dog! Thank you for sharing
Self defense against wildlife and shady humans when I’m solo camping
My dad is into guns, so he gave me one. And I sold it. And then he gave me another, and I guess I’ll hang onto this one for a bit.
It’s half and half. There are occasionally kidnappings and armed robberies where I live so I’m grateful to have the right to defend myself, it’s good to be prepared for any unforseen disaster that might befall us, and I think firearm ownership is an important political right (it seems very suspicious that some of the people who are most eager to impose their political ideas on the rest of us are also very eager to ban one of the tools we might use to stop them). But honestly I just like guns, shooting is fun and I do it competitively, they’re interesting machines to study and tinker with and they have a lot of interesting military history attached to them.
Yeah user Treczoks in here is particularly suspicious on that front.
Mostly for protection and also for emergencies. I don’t hunt anymore because I can not make good use of the animal and also I don’t even particularly like game meat, but it’s nice to have that option if stuff goes to hell in the future. The defensive aspect I have used several times.
To me it always seemed crazy to trust other people with your protection. Not only are governments almost always run be psychopathic pedophiles who will murder millions for any number of reasons while surveiling the rest of the population, but humanity in general is not at all trustworthy. Most people are pretty evil. They will hurt innocent people. That’s how humans on average are.
I don’t have any actual firearms, but I do have non-firearm designated air rifles for pest control
I am considering getting my PAL to get more powerful air rifles for the same reason, just for bigger game. The little Canadian ones are sub 5 fpe / sub 500 fps and not good for anything bigger than a rat, and barely even that
I have no desire to own a real firearm beyond the factor of it being a neat machine; even if I moved farther out there just wouldn’t be a need for it where I live.
Need no? Want? Only flint lock and before that for decoration because pretty. So they also wouldnt be able to shoot
I have a deep and abiding fear of paper targets.
Sorry, I find humor helps me deal with bad situations. And as a progressive in the US, that is where I currently find myself. Large numbers of people profess that they would be happy to murder me, my family, and my friends, because we aren’t misogynist, racist, homophobic, and transphobic sociopaths. I put a high value on human life, and I would not kill someone over property, but I am willing to kill to prevent others from being killed.
I believe in using as little force as necessary. I believe in de-escalation. I believe that deadly force should always be a last resort. But having a firearm leaves that option on the table, in case nothing else works.
I hope that we can eventually all get back to treating each other like human beings. Right now I don’t think I can count on that from everyone.
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