Members of Otzma Yehudit have worn noose-shaped pins in support of the bill.
Under the proposals, those sentenced to death would be held in a separate facility with no visits except from authorised personnel, with legal consultations conducted only by video link. Executions would be carried out within 90 days of sentencing.
The measure allows courts to impose the death penalty without a request from prosecutors, and without requiring unanimity, instead permitting a simple majority decision. Military courts in the occupied West Bank would also be empowered to hand down death sentences, with the defence minister able to submit an opinion.
For Palestinians under occupation, the bill would close off avenues for appeal or clemency, while prisoners tried inside Israel could see their sentences commuted to life imprisonment.
Jesus christ how long until they just fire up the gas chambers and skip this song and dance of a trial where the defendant gets no appeals, limited legal counsel, no unanimous decision, and no prosecutorial discretion? These politicians are absolutely disgusting.
Jesus christ how long until they just fire up the gas chambers and skip this song and dance of a trial
We past that point ages ago. This is a purely procedural motion to legitimize the de facto summary executions and extrajudicial murders already happening in the field.
IDF thugs have been bombing emergency vehicles, demolishing every source of potable water or edible food, and wounding children in order to lure adults out of hiding with their cries for help going back… straight to the Nakba of 1948 if we’re being honest. But it really took off in 2018, during the first peaceful March of Return. Then it accelerated enormously after Oct 7th.
Anyone Israelis have captured since then has been brutalized solely for military intelligence and propaganda. Executing them is a matter of course. There’s a case of a one-year-old being tortured in order to extract information from his father, for instance. Palestinians who leave Israeli custody have often been so maimed and abused that they die within a few days or weeks of release. This is deliberate. Their executions would have been a formality at best.
“They did that to their own kid to make us look bad!”
They’ve been so upfront and honest with things so far, you know they won’t abuse this system in any way. I mean, only for actual terrorists, and not like 7 year olds… /S
The Jews have become the Nazis. How the fuck do these people go from having this done to them, to doing it to others. Fuck them all. Also want a record of everyone wearing those pins, so when we bring back the Hague we can hang them.
The
JewsIsraeli government have become the Nazis.They turned PEZ into a torment nexus…
The candy?
Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. A Czarist Russian propaganda piece still popular with paranoid antisemites.
Ummm… no.
Is this my personal “water, you mean like from the toilet?” moment?
Brawndo’s got electrolytes. It’s what plants crave.
P.E.Z. refers to a nazi propaganda piece about a made-up cabal of satanic, pedophilic, and cannibalistic Jews who secretly ruled the world or were plotting to take over the world and subjugate every non-Jew.
It was a complete fabrication and total lunacy, obviously. But the nazis used it to instill fear and mistrust of the Jews, blame them for society’s problems, and attempt to justify the discrimination, segregation, and eventual holocaust.
And yet… less than a century later we have the Likud, Epstein, Israel bombing almost all of their neighbors to destabilize the region under some sort of eschatological and ethno-supremacist delusions, and with a standing policy to nuke the entire planet if their total defeat is ever imminent.
The “torment nexus” refers to a trope where a guy was talking about some tech bros who invented the torment nexus from the science fiction novel titled “don’t invent the torment nexus”…
i.e., the unimaginable horror was fiction, until reality changed suit to match it…
You know a lot of Jews feel like Israel stole the Jewish identity and transformed it into something grotesque.
I saw this interesting interview with a Rabbi who explained how Israel Zionist stole it’s so called Jewish identity as a means to enact terror on the middle east and hide behind “but we Jews are the victim, remember the Holocaust?”.
This Jewish Rabbi really doesn’t like Zionism nor Israel government. I felt much more informed on the topic of how Israel Zionism formed after watching this. 15 min video if you are interested.
The Jews have become the Nazis.
No, the right-wing fanatics running Israel have become an apartheid regime.
Most Jews are decent people who are opposed to genocide and oppression. But few of those decent people are associated with the Likud or the even more rabid parties such as Otzma Yehudit.
For him, with the rope a bit too long so he can stand on top of toes, lasting a couple hours
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Daily reminder that everything the Nazis did was legal
Not everything. The concentration camps were purposefully built outside Germany.
That’s complete bullshit. The first concentration camps were built long before the war, within Germany.
During the war all camps were within the Third Reich’s territory as well. Yes the government knew. Stop spreading disinformation.
???
Dachau is just outside Munich.
Buchenwald is just outside Weimar.
I know because that’s where most of my ex’s family were murdered.
It was opened before the war even started.
Built legally outside you say?
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That’s a wild thing to say that crosses into Holocaust Denial territory.
That IS Holocaust denial.
Sits comfortably within*
There were over 40,000 Concentration Camps in Nazi-controlled territory. Are you actually claiming that some unknown entity built, filled, and operated over 40,000 Concentration Camps without the other extremely control-oriented Nazis being aware of it? And you can’t identify this Unknown Entity?
Just the application of the most basic Critical Thinking Skills will shoot down this ridiculous assertion.
Lol I heard the actual number was closer to 6 million concentration camps it was way more efficient and totally legal but secret. I can’t even with some of you.
Yes, the Nazi party was deliberately secretive because of the criminal nature of its actions.
To clarify, the Nazi Party built the camps, without the knowledge of the German government? Is that your assertion?
@rwrwefwef @world I don’t think it was criminal. Pretty sure the Nazis passed laws that made the Holocaust legal in Nazi Germany.
And who was running those camps? The tooth fairy? Get real ffs
You might want to look up the Wannsee Conference …
Which was held under secrecy.
I mean … yeah? Secret from everybody that wasn’t the German government and the SS…
About a second after this passes. Fucking nazis.
After? They already are, the nazis didn’t get the name after the gas chambers.
In other words, turning concentration camps into death camps
If your enemy executes their prisoners, you learn two things:
- You should never surrender.
- You should never take prisoners when you fight them.
It’s like these insane old fucks running the world actually want to make sure that part of their legacy is leaving a constant trail of traumatized "other"s in their wake that will grow into the “terrorist” targets for the next generation to kill.
They murder Palestinians in droves illegally. Why are they pretending to worry about having a law, or not?
Best bang for their buck placating a large and influential political body.
Isolate, boycott, divest and sanction this genocidal apartheid regime.
Prisoners held with no charge, executed for the crime of being a prisoner.
Prisoners held with no charge, executed for the crime of being
a prisonerborn in the wrong spot.
religion really is a scourge on humanity.
This is ethno-nationalism.
While I mostly agree, it’s really “organized” religion that is the problem. Not religion itself. And of course organized religion is just humans fucking each other over. It’s like the land was taken, so they needed another dimension to form thier group around so they could have power and influence. So they went with religion. It’s much more profitable.
If a religion isn’t organized, then how is it a religion at all?
You can believe in whatever you want, and that would be religion. Lots of people have their own flavor of religion. Even people who go to services often have their own flavor that doesn’t line up with any specific religion. I think there is like a whole religion around simply believing in some form of god. Unitarian I think they call. Not sure if it is actually organized or not. But once you have a human leader and a body that tells all others of a religion what to do, then you are organized. And that leader and body that makes descisions for the rest is the problem.
When it gets down to the personal, singular level I tend to refer to it as spirituality rather than religion. When you scale it up to an organizational nature and have leadership and such that’s when I call it religion. So at least, in my brain, the word religion itself implies organization.
Am I working with incorrect definitions of the words spirituality and religion? And if so, then what is the difference between the two?
Words don’t mean the same thing to everyone. And there is no real authority. Websters dictionary company or whatever is sometimes seen as one, but they are just a company trying to sell a product. So I don’t think there is a rule on this. Since organized religion is a phrase used in various places, it implies the existance of unorganized religion. This would probably be a group of people who all believe the same thing, but there is no leadership and such. That would be tough to fit under spirituality. But neither interpretation is really wrong.
Christianity post-Jesus but pre-Constantine. They met in small groups in a person’s home. It was a book club for how to be a better person because (setting atheist skepticism aside) that was Jesus’ original teaching.
Once it became a state religion, it was all about the power. After the fall of Rome, the Catholic Church was effectively a nation state - controlling territory, collecting taxes, etc.
Organized religion, at any scale of organization, is about only one thing: power.
Imagine being so fucking delusional that you wear a religious head piece at the same time you wear a glorified icon of a murder tool. How can anyone take this seriously.
Putting that aside, under what jurisdiction can they make arrests when they’re occupying internationally recognized sovereign territories. The Palestinians aren’t subject to their laws.
Since when does an occupying supremacist colonizer care about laws?
If you’re ever being robbed just remind the robber that crime is illegal
Fair enough, but the law binds its subjects as much as it does its judiciary. In other words, if the Israeli government can break the laws when it comes to Palestinians, what prevents it from doing the same to Israeli citizens? How can any citizenry be okay with this?
What you say is totally rational, which is why many of the people supporting these monsters are doing it for irrational reasons. Things like hate, anger, and bigotry seem to be very effective right now!
And thus you get the “and I did not speak up”. Everyone who is not affected at first thinks it won’t happen, when it does start happening to them, it’s too late.
That’s called selective enforcement. Just because there are laws, that doesn’t magically make the system fair.
Their power comes from the barrel of a gun, and they do little to hide that fact besides bad-faith arguments.
It’s like they have this problem with all these prisoners and camps and stuff and they need one more remedy. A last result of some kind. Like an ultimate fix. Hmmmm
The should put something catchy over the gates, something like העבודה משחררת אותך
Its quite amazing that hebrew is a language that can’t be translated by machine due to its phonetic nature. They future proofed the language at conception well before computers existed.
Their legislative body is proposing they do more war crimes? Jbfc
The motherfuckers learned well from the SS and NKVD. Sick and disgusting
Where are all the “But Kamala will be worse for Gaza” people at?
We are months away from them just setting up mobile crematoriums at the end of the exit hallway from an empty courtroom.
Whats that? They were pretty much all bots? Crazy.
Where are all the “But Kamala will be worse for Gaza” people at?
What would she have done differently, and why said different policy has not been implemented before?
The only difference is she would have said “this sets a dangerous precedent for the future of democracy”, get called an antisemite, and then walk back her statement without doing anything.
This is literally a situation where Kamala would do NOTHING AT ALL towards Israel different from what Trumps is doing - i.e. not doing anything about it.
Of all the possible scenarios you could use to point out that Lesser Evil is not Greater Evil, this is the worst one since Kamala would do the same toward Israel as Trump, but be more of an hypocrite about it (like saying some bullshit about “the US does not interfere with internal Israeli affairs” whilst sending them more bombs).
It would be way better to compare the actions of a possible non-Evil candidate that the Democracts should have fielded (but did not because the party is under the control of evil sociopaths) with those of Trump.
“What would Bernie have done?” sounds like a much better question to suggest here as the contrast with Trump would be huge.
Of course, pointing out that there are several Democrats who would act way differently from Trump or Kamala in this would bring up the point that a party which sidelined non-evil candidates in order to field a “as evil as possible but just shy of the other party’s” Presidential candidate needs to change and that would be questioning the perfection of he tribe and the quality of its chiefs, a step too far for a tribalist party faithful parroting “those who didn’t vote for Kamala ‘voted’ for Trump” DNC propaganda …
Say what you want but Kamala would not have stuck her micropenis in the Iranian hornets nest
Trump did. Gaza has still been obliterated. The rest of the middle east is on fire. The global economy is turbofucked for probably the rest of our lives.
Also netanyahu doesn’t have any tapes of Kamala from Jeffery.
¯\(ツ)/¯
So, Kamala would be less incompetent than Trump (such a low barrier that literally a stone I got out of my shoe the other day is less incompetent than Trump).
Meanwhile, Bernie would have stopped support of Israel when they started Genociding in Gaza.
The difference between Kamala and Trump is an inch, the difference between Bernie and Trump is a yard.
Strangelly the “Kamala beats Trump” parrots never seem to mention the alternatives to Kamala who could have been the Democrat Party candidate and are vastly better than BOTH Kamala and Trump.
I suppose I forgot that Bernie was the Democrat candidate in 2024?
One wonders why some relentlessly insist in treating the selection of a Democrat Party presidential candidate as a fait accomplit which should not be looked at, criticized or challenged, whilst treating the Presidential vote in a completelly different way.
The idea that the choice of candidate matters not implies that who the candidates are has no influence whatsoever in who gets elected, which is not at all consistent with the observed results of US Presidential elections over the years.
Surely anybody wanting that America is better led, rather than driven above all by party loyalty, when trying to figure out what went wrong in order to avoid a repetition of it, will look at the entire process rather than treating some of the choices that led to a Trump win and those who made them as “beyond question, it is as it is” whilst at the same time treating other choices and those who made it as “entirelly to blame for the outcome”.
n>ever seem to mention the alternatives to Kamala
So you’re not even capable of discussing an either/or comparison without changing the subject?
I thought the subject was about how NOT to have somebody like Trump in power, which naturally means examining EVERYTHING that led to somebody like Trump ending in power, which certainly includes looking at how and why did the other party in the power duopoly system in the US field such a horrible candidate that she lost against somebody as bad as Trump.
Of course if your “subject” is not “how best to beat/avoid a Trump president” and instead is “the electorate should be subservient to the choices of ‘my Party’s leadership’”, I can see how it would seem to you that I changed subject by not going along with the whole “the choices of the DNC are above challenge by the riff-raff” view.
Party loyals never challenge the choices of those they see as their betters - the Party leadership - and instead blame the masses for not going along with them: it’s never “how can we better make sure people want to vote for us” and always “people are horrible for not voting for us”.
NOTHING AT ALL towards Israel different from what Trumps is doing
She would not have accepted the offer to build a luxury hotel on the bones of murdered women and children. She wouldn’t have convened the Genocide Planning Committee (oops, “Board of Peace”). Would she have told Netanyahu to “finish the job”? No.
Was her policy towards Gaza immoral and unacceptable? Yes. Was it identical to Trump’s? No. Is the US people’s situation now under Trump no worse than it would have been under Harris? Only an idiot would claim that.
And at least some of the Dems are now refusing AIPAC money. How many Republicans have done so?
Don’t get me wrong. I’m no fan of a party that would let someone like Schumer be one of its leaders. But I utterly despise this binary reductionism that has no end result but suppression of the anti-MAGA vote.
tribalist party faithful parroting “those who didn’t vote for Kamala ‘voted’ for Trump” DNC propaganda …
I’m not a Democrat, I’ll be happy to see the day when the DNC is comprehensively reformed or eliminated and AIPAC and other agents of foreign influence are illegal, but in the meantime I am a rational person who knows that a tactical vote for an imperfect party is better than letting jackbooted thugs and pedophiles run rampant.
but in the meantime I am a rational person who knows that a tactical vote for an imperfect party is better than letting jackbooted thugs and pedophiles run rampant.
I’m sorry but that’s only “rational” if your analysis is very superficial.
Tactical voting is exactly what has been happening in the US for DECADES and the outcome was ever more rightwing policies, social mobility crashing from almost 90% in the 70s to just over 10% now, increased poverty and so on, and even putting aside all social and economic issues and focusing only on political strategy, with this system the Democrat Party has not once but TWICE fielded a candidate so bad that they lost to somebody like Trump.
Logically doing more of the same would yield more of the same outcome - ever more rightwing populists getting elected - and the next time a far-right POTUS is elected (a guaranteed event if desperate people keep getting created in the US by falling median real incomes and opportunities alongside a captured Press specialized in blaming foreigners for it, because both parties have neoliberal policies) that next Fascist POTUS might actually be intelligent and hence even more dangerous than Trump.
Even in a fucked-up, undemocratic, power-duopoly system like the one in America, each vote isn’t simply an A/B choice that’s closed once done - the way things work in the US a vote is a cyclic choice where parties put forward their choices for candidates and the voters say “yes” or “no”, and then some years later the same happens again, so the response of voters to the candidates fielded in one cycle informs who the parties put forward in the subsequent cycle.
In other words, if people keep rejecting a certain style of candidate fielded by a party, that party is pushed to field a different style of candidate. This how the Republicans changed over the years fielding ever more far-right and populist candidates - voters responded badly to “serious conservatives” so the party fielded more and more “anti-immigrant loudmouths”. It’s funny that Republicans have been more responsive to their electorate than Democrats.
So each vote isn’t just a choice of POTUS, it’s also a message to the parties about the suitability of the candidate they have fielded and, last I checked, in Democracy it’s the obligation of parties to responde to voters rather than the other way around.
Under this broader analysis, the Kamala vs Trump result yields two possible views:
- Millions of people were wrong in not voting for Kamala.
- A few thousand people in the Democrat Party leadership were wrong in fielding somebody with insufficient appeal to voters as their candidate.
As I see it, if one is trully not a party loyalist and genuinelly wants avoid another Trump in the future, the most logical choice is to go with #2 for three reasons:
- This is the SECOND time Trump won against the candidate chose by the Democrat Party leadership. Once might be chance, twice is not.
- Success is more likely in changing what a few thousand people (the Democrat Party leadership) do than in changing what millions of people (the voters) do, so it makes more sense in focusing on the 2nd group when approportioning blame.
- In Democracy it’s the obligation of the people who are competing to be the elected REPRESENTATIVES of the electorate to appeal to the electorate, not for the electorate to simply comply with the choices of “leaders”. The US isn’t supposed to be like Russia were people are expected to not question the leader.
If one’s objective trully is to avoid having another Trump in power in the US, then logically the most effective way to do so is to push the DNC leadership to change (or replace them) since those people are VASTLY more powerful than votes and are fewer in number so change there is not only way more effective but also more likely.
Sadly, there’s a lot of people driven by party loyalism parroting “blame voters” self-serving propaganda from the DNC in order to avoid that those party leaders suffer repeatedly choosing candidates that don’t appeal to voters.
Have you heard from jill stein?
putin has her come out of the permafrost every 4 years. Surprisingly both her and rfk jr had 1million+votes each, thats mean there were 2 million dumb conservatives that voted for “not trump”
She’s on a break, getting her aura cleansed.
You say that but those weirdos are still out there
Tired of Americans making everything about scoring points in their internal politics.
putin saw no reason to issue those videos after the election ended.
