• CaptPretentious@lemmy.world
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    15 hours ago

    First 2 sentenses are reasonable. But then… You get to everything else, and it just falls off a cliff. Assuming this is real, of course.

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      The first seems reasonable, until the reasoning is given, which reveals the whole message is batshit.

      Though IMO someone getting upset at being told they are lucky to be with the person they are with is kinda full of themselves and reading way too much into it. It’s more of a “I wish I was in your place without stating any intention to usurp it” than a “you don’t deserve to be in that place and must be there because things outside of your intent or control got you there”. It’s more non-threatening flattery towards your partner (as opposed to just flirting with her) than anything else and I’d consider taking offense at someone saying that to be a red flag even before he went off the deep end.

      It predicts the fragile ego stuff that follows rather than contrasts IMO.

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        The first seems reasonable, until the reasoning is given, which reveals the whole message is batshit

        Yeah, that’s what I meant. Like, expressing yourself to someone you’re dating, like “This made me uncomfortable,” generally should be ok. This proved to be the exception.

        someone getting upset at being told they are lucky to be with the person they are with is kinda full of themselves and reading way too much into it

        Well, what if the bartender was being a piece of shit, say someone who has cerebral palsy, saying they’re even lucky to be with someone… Would you still say that person is full of themselves? I think telling anyone they’re “lucky” to be with someone, from an outside perspective, is intentionally demeaning to one of the two people. Now, if someone in a relationship says they feel lucky to have found someone, that’s different. But clearly, it’s open to interpretation. And changes in context.

        Little personal story to add, I dated a girl a while back, and ALL her friends and co-workers would say how lucky she was and how good I was for her. We all knew why, she was overweight and I wasn’t. They didn’t even just hint and maybe I read that wrong, they were BLUNT about it. I was doing home cooking for us instead of doing fast food. I worked out, did 5k races, I was in great shape. And I was exposing her to that life and she was noticeably losing weight. But the look on her face when people said “she was lucky”, was defeat.

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          Yeah, I guess it depends on the context. I’ve just always interpreted it as being more about how great the other person is instead of saying anything about the other person. Like that luck could be lucky the timing worked out that you were both available when you started seeing each other. But I can see tones that make it all about the other person instead, deserved or not. So whether that line is a red flag or not does depend on context.

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      So the actual text in these posts is probably fake but I’m sad to say I’ve known two guys who act like this. Its not a ton, its not a majority of the guys I know, but like. Two is a lot for being THIS moronic. And they both seem like nice enough people at first. One of them is married to a pretty nice girl who just didn’t see it until it was too late. RIP.

      That said, posting this kind of stuff kinda irks me since it can end up making that reality seem more imaginary than it really is. Plus, people like me who have had that experience in real life don’t need internet posts to teach them that this is the way it is, and people who haven’t had that experience in real life probably aren’t going to update their perception of reality based on posts like this. So these posts still kinda end up useless despite being fairly representative of reality.

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        Have you seen how bad the manosphere shit has gotten? This is pretty stock standard thoughts for 30% (although sometimes it feels like 90) of men. Young men are especially falling into this

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          Yeah, my brother in-law is around 25 or so. I could totally see him doing this and then bitching about how he can’t keep a girlfriend. Some of the vile filth I’ve heard from his mouth is shockingly stupid.

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          I mean I can’t deny that there’s a lot of absolute morons roaming the streets, but I’m also questioning the veracity of these screenshots.

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    Being told you’re a lucky guy to have the girl you’re with is pretty much the height of cishet male-to-male compliments. There’s literally no compliment I would rather receive, and it’s pretty deeply ingrained in our culture.

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      About 7 years ago, my now-wife and I had just moved to this city and she was struggling to find work. We attended a few networking events to try to figure out the job market for her field here.

      Now, I mean. I know my wife is hot. She was then, she is now. She can and has stopped traffic. People have fallen off bikes to gawp at her. Women have thrown themselves at her. Men act like boys around her.

      At this professional networking event, while my wife had stepped away, a man wearing a 3-piece suit and clearly well into his career turned to me and said “I don’t mean to sound disrespectful, but she’s … really … beautiful.” The overall affectation and delivery was fawning, cautious, even. He was kind of moon-eyed. The guys around him all nodded somberly, as if they’d been stricken.
      He had been talking with the men around him when we wandered over, and they all went a bit quiet when we came over.

      Clearly, I still remember the compliment. It was a great testament to how hot my wife is. She’s a babe. (And like, fun, funny, and sweet and all the other stuff that makes relationships work.)

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      Being told you’re a lucky guy to have the girl you’re with is pretty much the height of cishet male-to-male compliments

      I personally would be more likely to interpret that as being told I’m not good enough for her. But that’s just me.

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          It’s as if people don’t know you can just say no homo right after the classic nice cock, bro.

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              I think I prefer to lick his taint while I’m humming to really tickle his glans. It’s difficult to get the humming right when you bob deep enough, but with some practice it’s almost second nature.

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          Depends, same age guy yeah it can come across as a threat, but older guys have said it to me and I’ll say it to younger guys. Like im forty, you guys are 25, im not stealing your girl lol. Like my 70 year old boss can say it to me and i know he just isn’t a threat at all, he can say with experience that my gf is better looking than me lol

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            Eh I’d be careful, 40/2+7 = 27, so according to the ancient folklore 25 isn’t that far off the “acceptable range” and the younglings could definitely think you’re creeping.

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                I just brought it up in jest but I’d definitely be careful about what I say to mid-twenties as a 40yo man, was more the point.

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      But this guy read the game in an even more deluded way than the average reader and thought he could just say “I am the prize” and have it be true

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    I think so much posted online isn’t real as such and more fabricated and what I classify as ‘engagement bait’

    TikTok is full of it and seems to have got worse now AI slop machine can churn it out en-mass.

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    If he isn’t obsessed with me looking like a slut and braggy about it, I don’t want him.

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      Hate it when my girlfriend dresses hot cuz then I’m horny all the time.

      JK she’s always hot and I’m always horny all the time 🫣

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      My grandmother was a slut and liked to brag about it. And she was one of my favorite people. Dress slutty, act slutty, or don’t. As long as you’re proud of who you are, and don’t judge others for not being you, then you’re cool.

      Side note: I was so proud of the number of people at my grandmother’s funeral who told me that their first interaction with her was that she told them how to have an organ using the bubble jets in the community hot tub.

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      Are we talking like hooker slutty, or classy slutty where they let you inside the church, but then the priest and the mother superior are both like “forgive me father for I have sinned” the moment they see you?

      I just need to know which gift card to grab.

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      There are so many like that. I tell everyone, sort out your insecurity before you start dating, otherwise it will end in disaster for both people 100% of the time.

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    …I’m not the lucky one, you are and that needs to be remembered.

    “Why didn’t she reply, and why doesn’t she answer my calls?”

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    This better not be real. If I went dateless for so long in my life while shit like this legitimately happens I’ll be so cross.

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    I always wonder how these guys behave up until the point where they pretty much literally say “I’m a deadbeat asshole”.

    How do they fool these women into going on a date in the first place? Are they really such amazing actors, and if so, why would they just admit to being scumbags after they already successfully deceived them.

    Really, you just sound stupid for going out with him in the first place. I cannot imagine someone being such a huge asshole and not showing any other red flags.

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      People can turn on a dime, I’ve seen it happen. It’s especially infuriating because a lot of these men’s friends will only know the good version of them and refuse to believe they’re capable of being dicks.

      It’s not just good acting, it’s that some men genuinely aren’t capable of treating a partner like a person and not a thing. So they can be nice to people they consider people, or to partners who are behaving they way they deem is correct. But the second you’re dating and something doesn’t fit their narrative of how things should play out, the claws come out.

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        My estranged mother in law, she’s all self sacrificing nice mom until you’ve made her mad, and then the mask comes off, her voice goes cold and she looks at you with emotionless shark eyes (though it was via phone, but I could imagine it). Happened the last time I talked to her and it was exactly like my wife described it

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          Oh jeez yeah, I’m not saying your mil has borderline personality disorder, but that’s a thing with people who do. They put you on a pedestal and hurt themselves to give you what they think you might want, right up until you fail to properly play the role they’ve assigned you. And as you say, the eyes go cold, they get angry, and they lash out hard.

          As someone who struggles maintaining her own boundaries (working on it in therapy), I have far too much experience with this.

          People with narcissistic personality disorder can do something similar.

          People with untreated narcissistic and borderline are really good at using emotion to override certain types of people’s knowing better.

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            We think she’s a narcissist, and she was all about looking like a martyr. She didn’t actually sacrifice, but she developed the appearance of such. The reaction I described usually came out when the house of cards was threatened

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        Yeah its like it doesn’t bother him when he first starts talking and dating but will suddenly switch as soon as he feels insecure.

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      I was a fool for this type of shit once. Granted, I was 17, with no emotional intelligence or confidence. He saw an opportunity to be able to control someone, and it worked. I will honestly never forgive myself for the years I wasted. Unfortunately, this is not uncommon.

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      50/50 this dude is super attractive and has never had to learn any better. I knew several of these in college. This has worked for them.

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      Are they really such amazing actors

      Unfortunately I don’t think they need to be good actors in the first place.

      One of the lessons of the last decade of the shit show that we call human society has been that awful and/or stupid people rise to positions of power and influence every day by acting confident and promising things they can’t deliver.

      The modern confidence man isn’t the thief of the street but the legitimate executive.