• ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    Everyone’s losing their shit over an additional sensor. Does everyone think their phone is constantly recording video because it has a camera on it, the same with the microphone? Laptops?

    Maybe if it was Meta? I don’t think Apple’s business model incentivises personally identifiable spying or keeping any recordings outside of their standard analytics and “improvements” model.

    They have been caught being pretty ham fisted with using third parties to process this data (eg. Siri recordings), so I wouldn’t put it past them for any of these anonymised recordings to fall into anyone’s hands really, but that’s why you can now turn them off.

    Which I would immediately do. I would never buy these anyway, and it sounds like a terrible idea, but some of this freaking out is giving them way too much credit.

    • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
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      7 days ago

      Yes. Maybe not constantly, but without your consent.

      If the 3 letter agencies are telling you to cover your webcam and Aliexpress is starting to sell phone and tablet camera cover stickers then I fully believe it’s a problem.

    • Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf
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      5 days ago

      It literally says “cameras for AI”. You don’t see how that becomes a problem?

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        5 days ago

        I’d say the spectrum goes from local ML, that seems fine, to recordings being made, leaving the device and being potentially seen by other humans (even “anonymised”), that’s much more problematic.

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      7 days ago

      that is going to be outside anyones control.

      Apple could theoretically lock it down [for a period of time] but darn—you made me realize the clones will have real cameras and look 1:1 before long

      …lol “Siri, verify nearby AirPods” (…then the bad guy keeps a real pair activated nearby? and it’s back to creepy)

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      This may be a first of its kind hardware issue for Apple, unless I’m forgetting something

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        States as in US? Because if that’s the case, this won’t be illegal in any way shape or form.

        I don’t understand why people think there is some law out there that supersedes the first amendment which unambiguously protects video recording in anything other than a bathroom, changing room, or the like.

        Even in private property doesn’t have a law stating you can’t record, it’s just that you are likely to be trespassed if you break a private establishments no recording policy.

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          7 days ago

          And the footage itself doesn’t even become illegal even when the trespass was in fact illegal, I heard - can’t require deletion I think? (Of course the property owner or their associates might be bigger than you!)

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      8 days ago

      They probably are designed for low resolution because Apple couldn’t mass produce better cameras affordably. Plus there is other hardware they don’t have space for.

      This will most likely follow the iPhone camera business model where new model AirPods will keep getting upgraded cameras.

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      8 days ago

      This AI push is stagnating innovation.

      I think it’s the other way around, corporate consolidation (including capturing our governments and getting all research funding) killed innovation a while ago and now AI is just the latest non-idea that is being used to cover up that none of the corporations have any new ideas. Even Apple’s latest good idea, ARM laptops, was basically done by cheap Linux nettops a decade ago.

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        Also, ARM laptops were Steve Jobs’ last big idea. He put in place Apple’s last 10 year plan before he died. The first M series laptop came out nine years after his death.

        The reason being that Apple is actually considered to be one of the founding members of ARM so they have unique access to the core. Moving to ARM was always the plan after moving to Intel. Apple was the first company to produce a portable ARM device, the Newton back in the early 90s before Jobs’ return.

        So even that innovation isn’t exactly new.

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    Fuck right off, dipshits.

    What really sucks about this is that there’s a version of us in the infinite multiverses where these companies and politicians develop and maintain trust so that we can actually benefit from some of these innovations without just feeling paranoid and taken advantage of, but instead, in their hubris, they make us hate them and their tech.

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      This is the truth. I got a free Oura ring and I would love to try it, but they’re in bed with palantir. Fuck that.

      So many interesting developments, but I’m unwilling to sell my soul to the devil to try them. What a dream it would be to use them without worrying that they’re going to sell every possible bit of data about me to the lowest bidder.

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        If its any consolation, nearly all new tech gadgets are shit anymore, still more are neat for a bit then slowly turn to shit in time, and others get abandoned and become theater props.

        If you fear you’re missing out, I assure you that is merely a perception, and you’d be disappointed if you tried most of that stuff. In my experience, any new tech in the past 10+ years that looked interesting ended up looking less interesting the more I learned about it, to the point I was actively disinterested before I was even done with my research on it.

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    8 days ago

    …users can query Siri about, like asking the AI assistant what they should cook with the ingredients they have in front of them … may also use the cameras to help with things like turn-by-turn directions.

    Those are some pretty underwhelming use-cases. I can’t see the world beating a path to anyone’s door for that. Even if you were so excited about these features that you were willing to overlook the privacy concerns, it seems like the phone you’ve already got would probably be just fine as a conduit for such services.

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        8 days ago

        Done. I held up my GPS-enabled smart phone I paid $50 for 10 years ago to my eye line, better yet I was able to get a real-time preview of the angle of the picture to ensure everything’s in shot.

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      And if we’re not ignoring the privacy concerns these use cases are definitely not worth putting everyone in front of you under this form of surveillance for a US tech giant and ultimately the US government. The price for society to pay is way too high.

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      If your phone is too much of a pain to get out of your pocket, surely a watch or bracelet is a better form factor for this.

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      Yeah. But mind that the bulk price of mediocre cameras is insignificant next to the sales price of AirPods.

      I think the idea is that people can walk around and chat with their AI companion, and it sees what they see. No need for any fussing about with hardware. That’s exactly Apple’s thing. Effortless technology for people who don’t want to deal with the mechanics of technology.

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    8 days ago

    Oh, brilliant! This is exactly what I wanted and directly solves so many problems and frustrations I have with the status quo! Thank goodness for such innovation! I feel seen!

    Edit: oops, that should say “I hope everyone involved in bringing this product to market gets given an STI by a hippopotamus”. Silly autocorrect.