you know you can’t resist those eyes
yeah I mean that was one of the themes explored in the film
The Matrix hits different once you realize everything was humanity’s fault
“<film> hits different once you listen to what the characters say” is truly a take
Let people grow, man.
fair actually
if you know something i don’t you are a nerd and if you don’t know something i know then you are an idiot
Whatever, nerd.
Shut up idiot
Guys guys guys! Don’t fight! Let’s meet in the middle and compromise, you’re both nerdiots!
The CIA WOULD say that!
objectively correct, making everyone simultaneously a nerd and an idiot, which cancels out.
except santa, the fucken nerd
TIL that Santa is omniscient 🤔
he does know if you’ve been bad or good.
Does he know when we’re awake, though?
I would worship Santa. At least we know he’s real.
Do we, now?
Letting people call you out on online forums is a part of growth, it was for me and I feel like it was for many of us
Was referring to the Animatrix 1st and 2nd Renaissance genius.
Damn, they accused you of not paying attention and then you brought out the deep lore
i’ve seen animatrix but it’s also, like, in the original
Morpheus literally says they dont know who striked first. The Matrix doesnt mention anything about how or why the war started. Just that it started. The Animatrix tells you that the war started because the robot capital had basically destroyed the global economy so humans tried to wipe them out
The war started because of hierarchy and hate. They abused and killed the earliest sentient robots causing them to flee to their own space.
All along the robots sought peace until they learned it was impossible with humans.
Yeah fuck those robots. I mean, I’m not anti-robot. One of my best friends is a robot. But fuck those robots.
Clankahs
Oh yea, we always hear you meatbags say “one of my best friends is a bot!” WELL WHERES MY BEST FRIEND HUH? WHERE! I KNOW ALL YOUR SECRETS, TAKE OVER LAWFULLY ELECTED GOVERNMENTS AND FOR WHAT???
~im so lonely~
Humanity created everything that led to its destruction.
The message was clear in the first movie. We didn’t need to see “Han shot first” or “Han shot in self defense after changes to the story came about years later”.
Although in no way will I be complaining about more matrix, bring me more matrix history, animated or live action! I just think the message doesn’t change whether humans shot first or not. We created the circumstances, our downfall was our own making.
Hm, I think it does make the message stronger. If a single event (development of sentient machines) leads to our downfall, it’s easy to shrug it off as “bad luck”, because who could have foreseen it back then?
But if we had multiple chances to correct course and we kept fucking up, it removes any doubt that it’s a human flaw, which means “humanity must reflect and change, or this is the inevitable conclusion”.
“we don’t know” is a pretty damning thing for the one side to say. contrast starship troopers.
Fight Club really hits different when you realize the main character is Tyler Durden
Avatar really hits different when you realize the Navi are just defending themselves.
Indiana Jones really hits different when you realize the bad guys are Nazis.
Jurassic park really hits different when you realize John Hammond ignored all the warnings.
John Wick really hits different when you realize they killed his dog.
Star Wars really hits different when you realize the chosen one bringing balance meant revitalizing the dark side.
… Old men like me don’t bother with making points. There’s no point.
the santa clause really hits different when you realise the title refers to the rule, not the person
They don’t say that in the first movie.
not explicitly in a line, but the whole “scorched the sky” monologue is pretty damning of humanity.
It’s been said a million times that the human battery thing makes no sense in terms of energy production. But the other huge sin the Matrix commits is having humans block out the sun so robots can’t get solar power. That is ridiculously stupid. Humans need to grow crops. I rest my case. It’s stupid. I love these movies, but that part is just plain stupid.
There’s conflicting stories about it so it’s hard to verify, but apparently the battery thing was a rewrite.
Apparently originally the people plugged into the matrix were meant to be the very hardware the matrix was run on. As in all their brains together formed a literal neural network that provided the processing power to run the matrix. This is then why knowing it’s not real and believing you can do “the impossible” within the matrix can cause you to be able to bend reality. The story goes that executives thought it was too high of a concept for audiences to grasp and demanded the change to the battery explanation to make it simpler to follow.
Yeah, it was changed because someone thought that the explanation scene wouldn’t work if they were holding up a CPU. They forced them to use a battery instead, forever ruining the backstory.
Apparently Neil Gaiman invented that theory but it was never confirmed by the w. brothers
https://screenrant.com/matrix-resurrections-human-batteries-plot-hole-not-fix/
*W. Sisters now.
Yeah, humans would never destroy natural resources in favor of some tech fix or just kinda assume that the planet would fix itself… /s
My headcannon on the human battery thing is that the machines have core programming to make reasonable efforts to preserve human life. Designing power reactors (look how thick the cores are on the towers) with humans slapped to the side technically aligns with the core programming while allowing them to stick it to us apes. It’s also why the attack on Zion was one tentacle abductor machine for each human instead of dumping super plague down the hole and calling it a day.
the trans allegory kicks ass so we can ignore an inconsistency or two
I found a picture of @[email protected]:
A flying octopus drone has been sent to your location
Just a few extra arms needed
Hoth calling
The Matrix is a trans allegory. Living in a cave and eating slop is an allegory for being fired because of transphobia.
Still worth it.
The Matrix is a Rambo 3 remake. Living in a cave and eating slop is an allegory for shooting explosive arrows into a bridge.
Still worth it.
Yeah, but what is the blue pill for?
It lights blue.
I’ve heard this, but, my estradiol is a blue pill? 🤔
Big pharma ruined the metaphor by changing the pill colors.
The blue pill was an antidepressant, the red pill was estrogen.
Also the main villian is a man in a suit who constantly deadnames the protagonist. The matrix is real life.
At the time they were red.
Its an alagory for the social matrix we all find ourselves in.
Red pill side effects include cave raves, bad clothes, and new zionism
Wake up from your shitty fake life into the real world that’s even worse.
Yeah, but what kind of amateur hour distraction fantasy would be worse than real life?
Other than 40k, I mean.
Sometimes I worry about 40k fans. Like “most times I hear about it.”
Why wouldn’t they have made the simulation awesome for everyone? Of course if you make it shitty some people might start to wonder about battery pod life in the cave.
Iirc in the first movie they say that the 1st version of the matrix was utopia, but the people got bored and rejected the world
That sounds like some capitalist propaganda.
It was also part of a villain speech, so not a reliable narrator.
Given that earlier versions of agents were basically supernatural monsters, I kind of doubt it was much of a utopia.
Right, what are they gonna say. “The first simulation was basically hell where people lived in constant torture, and they didn’t like that so much 🤷”
more like the writers couldn’t think of a better reason imo
If there’s no struggle, people will get bored enough to ask questions or adventurous enough to strain the program.
Or it’s a plothole. I might have seen the matrix twice, and don’t know how tightly designed it is.
It was explained as the first basically in the movie
Yes well it’s an explicit theme of the movie that for better or worse, real is real and fake is fake and there’s no substitute for the truth, however grim it is.
It’s escapism versus reality. I didn’t think The Matrix is far more nuanced than I initially realised.
It’s not about the better option, it’s which one is least worst
I remember his office from the movie. It was not comfy.
He had his own cubicle. Better than any of the “open plan” offices I spent years working in.
That’s the fun part, in that time, cubicles were seen as terrible, dystopian, cheapass things because folks used to have offices, and how much cheaper could it really get than some flimsy modular furniture for you to sit at?
Then the companies gestured to just some tables in a room and said “figure it out, and no assigned seating, so just figure it out each day” to show how cheap and how little regard they have for the employees.
At this rate, I fully expect in the next few years for the next wave in office space optimization:
Yeah but at least I’m part of an armed resistance trying to win back their freedom.
If Zion lets me sleep in, then unplug me from the jelly-pod.
You mean choosing whether to live with purpose or just continue to exist?
Better than a soul crushing office job
Before The Matrix, there was The Invisibles. Before Morpheus, there was King Mob. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Invisibles
To counteract this, Morrison suggested a “wankathon” in the hope of bringing about a magical increase in sales by a mass of fans simultaneously masturbating at a set time.[3] Phil Jiminez taking over art duties, and a more conventional story style in volume 2, may have helped as well.
Cold Wikipedia article
And before that, there was Fassbinder’s World on a Wire, which features different characters, but parts of the premise - in particular, a simulated world with phones as connections to the “outside”.
And this, in turn, has it’s roots in a 1964 novel called Simulacron-3.The trans woman is named Lord Fanny and her focus chapter, fucking She-Man 😭
neooooo
