• audaxdreik@pawb.social
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    6 days ago

    What does end-to-end encryption even accomplish when you’re just feeding the information into an obscured, blackbox AI on the other end?

    Like yes, I understand the importance of E2EE, I’m just making a point, it’s all rather ridiculous.

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      6 days ago

      Thank you, this is exactly true.

      Most internet things are E2EE nowadays, but it matters not when the other end is AWS, Google, Cloudflare, or OpenAI.

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          5 days ago

          But data goes to the mothership anyway.

          ‘Bad actors’ can’t read your chatgpt conversations either, but OpenAI still does and can sell it.

          Apple may better than Google, but I still don’t want my data there.

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            5 days ago

            Yeah also Prism - hello? Over 10 years ago we discovered that US can just enter any US based company’s server and read anything they want unless it’s directly encrypted but for these tools to function they have to decrypt data server side so LLMs can read the contents. Which means your data is not private in any way shape or form, not from Apple and not from US and not from anything in-between.

            These claims by Apple are absolutely meaningless smoke for the ignorant who just follow tech buzzwords.

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                4 days ago

                And what is that supposed to guarantee? Who ever owns the hardware of unencrypted data owns it. There’s no way to pass tokens to LLM without unencrypting the content. Whatever path is made to obfuscation is fundamentally incapable of security.