10k? 100k? A million?

I am not talking about calculating with numbers, but rather the point where numbers stop being comprehensible, or “no longer mean anything”.

Try visualizing exactly 10000 apples in your mind.

Edit: What I’ve gathered so far from the answers:

Visualizing: <10

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    10k? 100k? A million?
    I am not talking about calculating with numbers, but rather the point where numbers stop being comprehensible, or “no longer mean anything”.
    Try visualizing exactly 10000 apples in your mind.

    You’re quite optimistic. I recall from old Psych classes that visualization breaks down even before double digits, so the 5-9 range. Don’t have any references at hand so I might be misremembering it, but now I’m curious too and will see if I can find anything in my notes.

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      As an average, I usually see the number 7 bandied around. After that we start “chunking” where each group becomes its own conceptual object.

      This is why phone numbers without the area code have 7 digits in North America.

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      7 sounds about right. When I see a number of stuff in front of me I can quickly grasp how many there are up to about 7. 8 already becomes two fours. 9 is 3x3 or 4+5 depending on how the objects are clustered.

      Though I think I can estimate up to about a thousand. Usually by comparing to stuff I have already seen in that ballpark.

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      Interesting. I thought you could split numbers into “bundles” (1 bundle of 5 apples, 10 bundles of those, for example).

      Edit: Or imagine 5 and then start doubling over and over.

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        Yes, but then you’re not comprehending all the numbers. There’s no difference between imagining 5 googolplex and 5 dragons.

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      * * * *    x    * * * *
      
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      This is how I visualize up to 16 (x is the centre of my focus). I don’t think I can go any higher though