Everyday folks are rising up to resist immigration raids with whistles, car chases, and noisy protests. Revolution is in the air.
Revolution seems to ne conflated with an angry tweet while in line at the drive thru at Burger King.
American revolution? They should be talking about a civil war.
We need another underground railroad at this point.
TRANScontinental railroad; to help relocate TRANS ppl, LGBT ppl, and liberal women.
ICE, DHS, and Border Patrol coming in and invading our blue cities, alongside the National Guard sent from red states to blue states sounds like what exactly? A civil war.
But only one side it participating, that being the red state invaders. Unless there were at least one murked ICE agent by an organized attack, or a blue state pulled an offensive maneuver, there’s no revolution here.
This article states it’s witnessing revolution, when this country hasn’t even organized a GENERAL STRIKE by now. Should’ve happened before Chuck Schumer cucked us out during the government shutdown.
We have some wins to be projected thanks to elections, but an article titled like this is just particularly useless hopium, and gets in the way of the real deal if there are no more free and fair elections.
It seems more like a proxy civil war. DHS and Ice are invading blue cities and states to terrorize those residents, but plenty of blue states have passed state laws to counter the shit happening in other red states and at the federal level. (New York passed “abortion shield” laws, to protect patients and providers offering or receiving abortion care in NY from legal repercussions (civil or criminal) initiated by states with abortion bans.) We have sanctuary cities. We have blue cities/states instructing their police not to assist ICE/DHS. People within those cities and states are also fighting back with neighborhood watches and protecting each other from ICE/DSS. To say that blue states/cities aren’t fighting back is disingenuous.
The tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of patriots. It will come to violence, I don’t see this ending any other way. The people that are openly opposing trump and his bullshit are trying to do it via civil disobedience, instead of violence. Violence just gives the right fuel to call the left terrorists and demonize the movement, along with an excuse to institute martial law. Civil disobedience gives the movement more credit. Black people during the civil rights movement and MLK recognized this. They knew violence would demonize, and therefore jeopardize what they were trying to accomplish.
Yes civil disobedience is out on display, and it’s phenomenal, but it’s not enough; like MLK’s movement, there has to be enough organizing for at least a strike, a general strike. We can’t pretend that, using your example, Hochul’s push for laws protecting abortion rights in NY are enough with her corporate Democrat sentiments capitulating to the right; she’s going to undermine some of Mamdani’s more ambitious plans for NYC, and I don’t anticipate maximum resistance from her when defending her constituents against fascists. And sanctuary cities are the ones under attack my friend, they’ve been “sanctuary cities” for a long time. That’s why they’re going after them.
Bipartisanship is dead, and we need fighters, as peacefully as it can possibly be done. Right now until further notice with Mamdani’s inauguration, so far the NYPD has been cooperative with ICE as well; we can’t count on our leaders to apply pressure for us right now, and we have to use our leverage.
A more honorable response to Trump and ICE has been Illinois, with Gov. Pritzker and Mayor Johnson. They have the right messaging, they have the right constituents defending their communities in Chicago, and the Chicago PD is pissed enough at ICE to not cooperate (with no arrests of ICE agents, mind you), but it has not been enough to kill the momentum. We NEED to use our leverage.
On a side note at least, it would appear from the outside that military does not hold as much confidence in their commander and chief as Trump hoped. A blanket use of marshal law doesn’t appear possible with the White House’s ambitions of foreign policy. It truly is spectacular implosion to be witnessing.
I guess if you believe that the American war for Independence was a “people’s revolution”, then anything makes sense.
The American Revolution happened because Americans didn’t want to repay Britain for its help in the French and Indian War.
We’ve been dying for tax cuts for our rulers ever since the country’s inception.
Revolution is in the air.
Sure, and any day now I’m going to lay a giant golden egg and fly away on my skydragon to never-never-land where I’ll live with elves.
Meanwhile some mysterious, highly charismatic and intelligent stranger we never met nor talked about will magically appear and have a full set of perfect progressive values that everyone can agree on and yet have no qualms about using violence to achieve those values. We will have clear-cut borders and divides between the people who are opposed to the new regime and those mighty leftist warriors who always march-lockstep with whatever leader we elect.
In today’s western democracies leader cults and charismatic authoritarianism tends to cluster on the right, not the left, despite what the “both sides!” people want to believe.
Donald Trump is the obvious endpoint of pseudopopulist anti-intellectual conservatism. Thankfully the US got there first, so we can all see where the conservatives around the world are headed.
Thankfully the US got there first, so we can all see where the conservatives around the world are headed.
I really wish that it would realistically serve as an international warning, but I’d be surprised if the scourge of weaponizing atomized worldviews and the attention-span erosion hasn’t seeped into every corner of the developed world. Corporations are the engine that drive this trend of fear mongering and authoritarian rule, and even if we see a bit of pushback here and there, they don’t recognize borders and see every nation as a ripe field to reap and have more patience and resources than any progressive group.
Unless ICE is being inconvenienced in any meaningful way, there’s no “revolution” happening. I’ve got some great ideas on how to stop them permanently, but it would likely violate the forums posting rules.
Hopefully we can get some more lemmy instances that allow people to say what they want so you don’t feel the need to self-censor.
They are absolutely being inconvenienced in a very real way. They are still succeeding though, so the counter-insurgency really needs to step up the use of force.
Chinga la migra
… with the same unlubed dildo of consequences that’s waiting on Putin, Trump, and a bunch of Epstein accomplices.
Ratas
It took me a moment to remember that ratas is Spanish for rats so I was wondering what Estonian politician Jüri Ratas has anything to do with this, given that he’s more of a bag of hot air than a dictator.
These are the titles I like to see!
That’s why they used it despite the fact it’s absolute bullshit - we’re nowhere near an actual revolution because we’re too distracted by shit like social media to get wound up enough.
We’re too distracted by Epstein or participation trophies or ballrooms or…
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Winning through delegitimizing the other side to keep soldiers from being willing to fight is the only practical way to win under these conditions
Well there are two approaches. First you try peace frog. If that doesn’t work, you use other means.
Peace frog doesn’t work. Now what? Peace pigeon? When can we start shooting?
You can start now if you want. It’s not going to end well for you until there’s a critical mass doing it with you.
I guess if everyone waits for critical mass…
Can’t have a critical mass, when everyone is doom scrolling through the Lemmy and Reddit.
Nah man we only need 3.5% of peaceful protest. Let’s ignore the fact the people who made the observation said it doesn’t always work and that as time goes on that that number is less relevant.
So yeah when is the next No Kings™️ rally? Gotta get my protest shirt from Amazon.
Yeah… I’m not saying I have a better answer or a solution.
I think we need to see what happens during some upcoming elections. If the US becomes irreversibly pedophile, you might get your wish. It’s good to stock up now though on guitars and other machines that kill pedophiles.
Bold of you to assume there will be elections in the future.
lol right?
Sweetie, when it comes down to it, fucking children isn’t high on the ‘bad list’ for the majority of humans. They just don’t want to be shamed for doing it or for not having much of an opinion on it.
… this is why they get elected and not charged despite clear evidence.
I think you’re not getting me. We need to creative in how we refer to bad people to avoid falling into boxes created by our enemy, which they then use to create lists.
You also don’t have to try to be more aware of our current dire state than me. I get it. What is the best way forward is the question. I’m not on board with a strategy of resorting to violence when there is a chance to solve it without first. That’s not to say we may not need a revolution. The trouble with that is once you start breaking things, it’s hard to put them together again.
Yes
