Suggestion for the top-right corner: ImmigrationOS by Palantir.
- Made for people too unfit and dumb for even be a police officer.
- Made for a literal genocide.
- Its devs will hopefully face consequences.
That might be the sign I waited to switch to Linux. Now… let me just search for the coolest noob friendly distro
Mint. Really. It basically just works. A decrapified Ubuntu.
I’m on CachyOS right now, and love it. I call it “Script Kiddie Arch”. Really nice, but it took some tweaking for my particular setup, no driver stuff, rather my use case.
Since it may require mild terminal stuff, and using the AUR, I’d say it’s an intermediate/advance user distro, although it may just work for you.
That checks out.
Arch Linux
- breaks if you don’t update it often enough
- breaks if you update
Am I the only one who thinks this doesn’t fit for the most of all?
Apple upper left, Windows upper right, BSD down left and Linux down right. End of the story.
Linux down right
My brother or sister
When was the last time you left the house?
No TempleOS no HannaMontanaLinux and you call it a meme? How dare you.
TempleOS is at the bottom left, at the margin
Likewise no jolla, considering Android is trying to create a walled garden like apple, and people are discussing alternatives lately
Debian as more mainstream than Arch?
Top choice for Linux server in many cases
All but my work computer (they don’t let me) run some version of debian.
I’ll be honest, I hate Windows 11 but the plethora of Linux distros as well as opinions on them gives me serious decision paralysis.
Linux Mint is just Ubuntu but better, I strongly recommend it
- Grab Ubuntu - super easy for new Linux users.
- install next to windows. Don’t replace it.
Just get a feel and poke around.
The moment one of those Linux users see that I said Ubuntu they’re going to froth at the mouth and lose their entire minds. It’s like their identity is tied to only using the most obscure, unpopular nonsense.
It’s easy enough - and the Snap store (app) is good enough for what you’d need. Its not the best in some situations, but if you’re not doing anything crazy and you just want to search web or whatever without all the surveillance and copilot slop being forced onto you - it’s a good start.
It’s a learning curve, but it’s not bad. I use Libre Office instead of MS Office now. Shortcuts and interface still fucks with me after growing up with MS Office products.
I dual boot Linux and windows on both my machines. When I game - I boot up windows. When I do anything else, I boot up Linux.
Seconded. Everyone shits on Ubuntu, but it’s solid, well-supported, and is low-friction both for install and daily use.
It also has decent Nvidia support and Steam runs well on it, so (most) mainstream gaming is a real possibility here.
Ubuntu has also gotten a lot better and promising in recent years, too.
Except Snap shenanigans. Snap always shenanigans. The Snap pushing is eternal… Though Entrop is right that it’s mostly just a power-user worry.
Though Entrop is right that it’s mostly just a power-user worry.
Not entirely. I’ve had a few snaps become useless when it comes down to providing configuration data. How an individual snap integrates into the filesystem depends on the author/packaging, and quality varies. Ultimately, it’s a PITA since the mapped filesystem paths are not in the stock/standard locations the product docs say they are. I chalk this up to packaging software that existed pre-Snap, or the original authors did not do the Snap packaging. It’ll probably get better as the ecosystem matures, but right now, it’s not a great experience unless the Snap-ed package can run as-is.
Gaming is the thing, I have kept my ear to the ground and gaming is much better than it was but it’s still a bit to go. I have a streaming laptop I no longer use, I may put Ubuntu or something on there. Test it out. I have some familiarity with Linux but my understanding the user experience has gotten a lot better since 10+ years ago.
Pick one. Use it for a while. Try a different one.
If you just want something that works out of the box and are very new to Linux, I’d grudgingly recommend Ubuntu, and highly recommend Debian-based mint.
(Ubuntu is easier to get started but I’m not a fan for a few reasons.)
If you’re familiar with Linux or don’t mind jumping into a learning curve, Endeavor OS is my current driver, and I’m liking it.
Just pick one, burn the ISO to a USB stick and run a live version. When your done checking it out, shut down, unplug the USB stick, and boot back into windows. You can do this with any distro you are curious about, and once you find one you feel comfortable with you can install it.
My mom hates windows but is also uncomfortable with moving to a new OS, so this is what I did for her. She settled on Mint and now I’m taking an old laptop my dad gave me and I’m going to install Mint on that so she can use it full time but still have her windows machine for the time being. Once she’s comfortable with Mint I’ll move her over completely with the current windows computer since it’s far more up to date and powerful.
This is absolutely terrible.
How is “wait 24 hours before installing an app” Android less corporate/authoritarian than Windows? Plus most Android devices are stuck running Android whereas you can always replace Windows with Linux
I think they meant the AOSP but technically most people also call that Android
AOSP, the operating system that nobody actually installs on anything. It’s about as niche as could possibly be, considering the only reason you’d install it is to work on the code.
For aesthetic reasons the chart only allows one OS per square, and any other arrangement would put Windows dangerously low. At least Android is mostly open-source.
There’s two squares for windows.
Right? No other OS gets two versions included.
Android is not mostly open source. Have you seen how incredibly limited AOSP is? It’s basically useless without all of the closed source parts Google puts on top.
“Open source unlike iOS”
Lol.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_(operating_system)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XNU
https://github.com/apple-oss-distributions/distribution-macOS
AOSP hasn’t been a complete operating system in a long time, so don’t tell me Android is open source. It’s open source in the same way iOS is, the way that doesn’t matter.
Come back when they have user flash-able, daily drivable forks.
Lol.
To be fair though, you can build a more open android distribution like Graphene or Lineage, which you can’t do with iOS. Still an awful platform though
I think that GrapheneOS is an amazing underappreciated project and deserves more attention.
I think it’s overappreciated. There are alternatives that better fit the needs of most users, support more phone models and are developed by people more responsive to their users’ needs that Graphene.
GrapheneOS currently supports only Google Pixel devices because they are the only Android smartphones that meet all of its strict security requirements: an unlockable bootloader, proper verified boot implementation, state of the art security chip, and long-term, reliable security updates. Most other manufacturers either don’t provide these features or disable critical security functions when an alternative OS is installed.
But what I find particularly impressive is how efficiently the team operates: with likely fewer than 15 full-time developers, they consistently roll out updates within days, sometimes even ahead of Google’s official Android releases. I think the system is very balanced, a lot of the hardening stuff works in the background without really breaking anything. I had some troubles with very specific apps but most of the time it just works.
That said, their communication style and transparency can sometimes come across as aggressive or uncompromising. Pioneers in FOSS projects often prioritize progress and principle over diplomacy, and GrapheneOS is no exception.
I know all this. 99% of users are using less secure ROMs so clearly top-notch security is not a must have for most people. Saying that someone needs Graphene OS because of security while using other ROMs makes no sense.
Other ROMs are as good or better for privacy, come pre-installled on many devices including Fairphone and have features GrapheneOS devs refuse to add simply because they know better what users should use (like pattern unlock). GrapheneOS is great, I’m using it myself, but a lot of people behave like the only choice is between stock Android or GrapheneOS on a Pixel device while there are many other great options.
Can’t ague with that. You’re not wrong. I just liked to express my joy and a shout out to that incredible dev team behind GrapheneOS. That does not mean other roms are shit. Its just every other rom I tried over the years stoppt working at some point or the project silently died.
Putting Kali Linux, a Distro specifically for cybersecurity and hackers, anywhere near the “corporate” axis, could be considered a war crime in some places.
Corporate+Niche quadrant could be populated with dead systems that only hobbyists use. Amusingly, there’s too many to fit onto this chart.
“Some people don’t like snap”. I had the suspicion is was most people don’t like snap.
I’m yet to find a person who likes Snap, actually. Even if you prefer that way of installation, people just go to Flatpak.
I am a person who likes the snap package over some flatpaks. Mostly because the snap integration is sometimes better. Like handling copy/paste or notification bubbles.
No one significant; just security people, system architects, build/release people and support people, because of all the best-practice it breaks. Who cares about those chumps?!?
*most end users.
Better?
