• JennaR8r@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Hey I’m an athlete but these foot pull doors are still extremely difficult. It strains your calf muscles, your hamstrings, your kegels, and your core. Opening heavy restroom doors with this spiky foot pull is not easy or fun or comfortable at all.

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        Yeah the one where we’re supposed to put our forearm through the hook. But you know people would just use their bare bacteria-ridden hands to pull that. Defeating the purpose of the germ-free handle.

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          It’s still something you can easily grab with your shirt or (ideally) jacket. That’s almost as good as if you were wearing gloves after washing your hands

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    This is why I love those things at the bottom of the door that lets you open the door with your foot.

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      Yes and I find it funny that I see them in some of the cheapest, bars & restaurants.

      Sit at a bar and have $3 beer, there’s a foot grab.

      Sit at a sushi bar and get $150 bottle of sake, no foot grab. Bizzaro.

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      True, except in this picture, you have to pull the door to get out.

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        I know … and unlock the door too!!! So I would only do that after and before i wash my hands.

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    I’ve had contamination OCD for the majority of my life, and this shit has been torture for me.

    I’ve been trying to get a ADA accommodation to work from home because my job is in software, but the bastards over at HR think that clorox wipes and a dedicated cube will solve this shit. It’s irritating as fuck that nobody in charge seems capable of piecing basic hygiene together.

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    Any handle or surface in public areas, assume the person that handled it before you had just finished taking a monster shit and skipped the handwashing before rubbing their pathogen-factories all over it. Photo in OP, there’s not really a good option, so you’re in damage control mode… check for toilet seat liners that some public restrooms stock and grab one of them? At least that’s something the other people handle before getting shit all over their hands.

    One of the nastiest assignments I’ve had working in a hospital was ‘Handwashing Monitor’. And let me tell you, I’ve debrided infected wounds; wiped maggots out of some fucker’s pannus; cleaned up every bodily fluid our bodies are capable of cranking out from the floor, walls, and sometimes ceiling; helped amputate limbs that were literally rotten to the bone, and wiped a cumulative mile or two of ass crack…

    …apply to nursing school today!!..

    …but anyway, Handwashing Monitor. It is beyond appalling the number of patients, visitors, techs, nurses, doctors, housekeepers, you name it… who’d go in and out of patient rooms without performing hand hygiene; or they’d wash their hands, but for like half a second; or not use soap; or turn the faucet on with their grimy-ass hands, do a thorough handwash, then immediately contaminate themselves by grabbing that same dirty-ass faucet with their bare hands to turn it off. The thing that made that position take the crown above all the other examples I gave in the previous paragraph was the realization that the community who is THE single most painfully aware of pathogens and their origins / mechanism of spreading… can’t even wash their fucking hands!

    …which brings us back to my opening sentence: it’s not advice on sheer ick factor, but a reasonable assumption based on directly observed evidence.

    And no, this wasn’t just a particularly icky hospital: I’ve worked in multiple states for multiple organizations/facilities, and to this day get eye-rolls for asking people to re-wash or even first-wash their hands.

    We nasty. Be a germaphobe. End rant.

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      Keep fighting the good fight. Many years married to a germ conscious nurse, and I think I have a pretty good routine now but still feel like borderline OCD and go through a gallon of hand soap a month.

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      Thanks, Murse. TIL

      Pannus is an abnormal layer of tissue that can form in various parts of the body, often associated with conditions like rheumatoid arthritis, where it can damage joints.

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        Pannus? I’m talking about the ‘apron’ of abdominal tissue that hangs in front of morbidly obese people. Under those things there’s often a lot of skin breakdown and infection - and in one of my patients, maggot infestation - because it becomes a progressively harder place to keep clean as they pack on more weight, then come to the ER once it looks like something from a zombie movie.

        Side note for my larger friends reading this: don’t neglect those nooks and crannies when performing hygiene! Dry it thoroughly, and keep it dry with powder or by keeping a layer of fabric in between areas with a fold so it’s not skin-on-skin. Often those first stages of an infection aren’t painful or anything, so by the time it’s actually bugging you, it’s BAD! Cleaning it can be tricky if your reach is limited, but you can get creative with it - one of my patients would bring a clean towel into the shower, soak it with soapy water, and kinda ‘floss’ into those folds. Dude was pushing 500 lbs, but never had skin issues. Lots of other issues, but he had hygiene down to a science.

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          Quick search seems to suggest you mean Panniculus, which sounds and reads similar enough that Wikipedia has a “not to be confused with” for Pannus.

          Also, TIL that piece has an actual name.

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            Looks like they’re interchangeable. In a clinical setting I’ve only ever used or heard it called a pannus. We even stock “pannus retractors” (basically a sticker with Velcro on the back - sticker part slaps onto the pannus, whole thing gets pushed wherever you need it, then Velcro straps connect to that to hold it on place).

            This might be a regional thing, too - chips vs fries kind of situation. Not sure where you’re posting from; I’m in that weird unstable area with all the guns that some orange neanderthal has been busy raping for the last couple of years.

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    Turns out businesses don’t care about cleanliness or your safety beyond the point where it might affect their bottom line and just install touchless sinks and hand dryers to save money on water and paper towels

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      Using wads of paper towel and leaving the tap open waste resources. This is a prime example where being economical equates to being ecological.

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        i work in a business with unlimited access to paper towels, it saddens me how much i have to throw away unused ones

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      I’ve witness a lot of people won’t wash their hands after taking a piss. In fact some of them take a shit and just walk out without washing hands. These people then touch doors, windows, counters, food plates, appliances, evey fucking common surface… People in the office, corporate buildings, people in suits… so yeah, fuck people, they’re fucking disgusting.

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          I agree, same goes for vaccinations, people are now much less likely to vaccinate their kids, which may lead to catastrophic consequences…

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      Still would accumulate toilet aerosols over time, and would still be gross. The real solution is foot handles or no door

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    There are plenty of ways to make this better. Most of it’s theater because there’s nothing really wrong with touching the door, but some of the ways are not even expensive to make it comfortable for germaphobes.

    Single bathroom doors always swing out

    Copper-plate the handles

    If you have to swing in, add a foot handle.

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      Plenty of stuff wrong with touching the door, considering how many people don’t wash their hands…

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        What else do they touch? How many are employees? The door is only gross because you know it’s being touched. EVERYTHING is being touched, and something like 50% of people don’t wash their hands properly or at all.

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          Yeah that’s why you don’t touch other stuff either, because it’s all gross. But at least if you go to the bathroom to wash your hands, you should be able to like eat your lunch after

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      The only reason touching doorknobs is gross is because people don’t wash their hands.

      Unless you’re willing to opt in to some kinda bathroom panopticon that locks the bathroom until everyone trying to leave has properly washed their hands, it’s probably best to just avoid a knobbed door.

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        Those same people are touching everything else in the store/world. The employees have touched every item on the floor. half of those don’t wash their hands. The door only feels gross because you have no doubt.

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          That’s why I try not to touch most things with my hands.

          I should also order more handkerchiefs

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    Touchless sinks are the worst fucking tech ever. Shit never works, and when it does, it never gives you enough water to get a good hand wash

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    This thread renforces my theory that hygienism is a bastard of capitalism. So much useless worries but in the same time so lucrative

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        Have you met people? There’s stupid fucks out there who take pride in being disgusting assholes who don’t wash their hands.

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          There were people going maskless during covid because they already caught covid and were only interested in protecting themselves.

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    The bathrooms outside the lobby in my work building take this automatic crap a step further, with automatic soap machines. It’s hit or miss if any given one will have soap at all. (Thankfully, we have another sink inside my work itself that employees can use, but guests are fucked.)

    Then when they do dispense soap, it’s the foam shit. So it looks like the sink just spit into my hands. Lovely.