Okay but is that really what EV undercarriages look like?
woosh
Sometimes it’s important to get an engineer’s thoughts, and not leave everything to the design team
For those who lived in blissful ignorance of this abomination
Allegedly Apple chose that design because they didn’t want people to get the wrong idea by using their Apple mouse while it was charging and think it might be a wired mouse. Although they apparently get pretty good battery life at least.
The LG wireless mouse my work tossed at me gets like 3 months to the charge as a mouse that’s used for mouse heavy work 40 hours a week, so I wouldn’t be at all shocked if apple achieved similar (although the LG has a charging port where any wired mouse would have the wire go in, so you can actually use it while it charges like a normal mouse!)
I’ve had the same cheap Logitech M705 mouse at work for over 10 years. It takes two AA batteries that last for around two years with daily use. Cost $30 when I first got it.
They do still sell it but have cheaped out a bit over the years - the scrollwheel is now plastic instead of metal and the sensors aren’t as good - but it still has that great battery life.
I don’t understand how these newer, fancier mice can’t achieve the same thing. I really hate that everything is moving towards built-in batteries. AAs are easy to instantly replace and I have a bunch of Eneloop rechargeable ones.
They could, but what sells is faster polling rates, lower latency and maybe some arghgeebee
Apple is incapable of making a good mouse.
Or a good keyboard.
They can make a decent touchpad. They can do a pretty nice touch gui. They still make beautiful displays. But they can’t handle the essentials.
Also trackballs > mouse any day.
(at one point, Apple made a couple of the best keyboards)
I was actually selling Apple gear when they released the Mighty mouse. It sounded AWESOME. We were so excited. On their ads, it sounded like we’d get a product with touchpad buttons basically that killed their previous (worse) puck mice.
What we got, was an overpriced mouse which was near-damned impossible to click the right button (you got RSI every time you tried) and which was physical click.
Microsoft’s super cheap basic mice we sold 10x faster (at least), and were 1/3rd the price
The reality is, they really f*** up most of their products, but people make excuses for them. Even the iPod shuffle, there were good cheap alternatives (I had one), and mine even had a display. OSX 10 used to have corrupt preferences regularly, SMB was crap until at least OSX 10.5, etc. One release, there was a bug where the network broke completely after a few minutes (there is no way anyone couldn’t have noticed during testing)
My Mac Studio M2 was the only computer I have ever had that had compatibility issues with some USB-C cables (and, it was a few of them from differing brands). Antenna gate, and they tried to water down the problems, by comparing to other manufacturers and said “if you hold them in this totally unrealistic way, you have similar issues”
Apple’s following is cult like. Though they don’t usually have major issues like Windows does, there are a fair number of Apple apologists.
Microsoft’s following is more…stockholm-like.
MS did make some decent mice though. For a while, all I would buy was Intellimouses. Going back to like, balls. Not to mention my cool blue serial MS Home mouse. Then I was a Logitech guy for a while (especially after having to deal with their warranty process, like, one of the best, up there with Anker. At least, several years ago. Who knows what’s changed since).
Decent gamepads for the era too. Sidewinder Gamepad was top-notch. I played loads of Quake with that before I learned about WASD. This is pre-analog, and I was actually pretty decent with it, iirc. Not nearly as good as I got to be with WASD tho.
Nowadays I love my Elecom Huge and 8bitdo gamepads.
Don’t forget this gem
(idk how to embed images on Lemmy)
The fun part of that is you have to charge the ipad first. And Then you can charge the pen using that new ipad charge. I’m charging this thing twice just for one charge basically. No wonder i don’t use it.
Lemmy uses markdown for formatting. If you’re unsure how to do something, you can look up “how to x in markdown.” For example, a DDG result for “how to embed images in markdown”:
https://www.markdownlang.com/basic/images.html
That site has lots of other markdown tutorials if you’re inclined to browse. If you want to experiment with the syntax away from the public eye, there are plenty of editors that will show you live what you’ve created. Many options for doing this locally on your system exist, but so long as you’re not working with sensitive data, I like this online option:
https://markdownlivepreview.com/
Also, some (but certainly not all) Lemmy clients have buttons that will generate the right syntax for you.
Thanks, I didn’t know Lemmy had full markdown support. I assumed it was like reddit, which (last time I used it) didn’t allow image embeds in comments.
Bruh you can embed a whole movie if you want:
Inconceivable!
Happy to be of service!
This is a positive implementation, esp. when away from pwr sources. The pencil came with a tip for cord charging.
A company the size of apple should be able to come up with a more sane charging situation, such as maybe a spot it magnets to at the edge of the iPad to charge? Then you can use the iPad while the stylus charges on the go
I didn’t buy one but I have two or three here, because several companies just threw them in with new laptops. I don’t use it because I just hate that design and the ergonomics.
But, I did buy the “you are holding out wrong”-phone.
Can confirm I own one of these and it is stupidly designed! Glad I didn’t pay for it lol
What surprises me most is that I don’t think Apple ever sold an expensive cradle for this mouse to be held upside-down. Die hard Apple fans would have bought it.
They not only bought it, they defended the design choices to the hilt
For the full experience, the car would have to look the same from the front and the back, so you wouldn’t know which is the driver seat until You opened the door.
Open the door? Oh no this seamless design requires you enter through the bottom hatch.
Time to completely renovate the garage for below-ground entry!
The entry has been removed, you now entirely interact with the car by Bluetooth.
Your iCar gets 64 feet from your house, disconnects, and sits in the middle of the road. Passersby are uncertain if the car is on, off, or died in the middle of use. A few days later, a local child jokingly jostles your iCar while running by. Nothing on the car indicates a change, but the nearest 4 houses see “db2’s iCar” as an available device in their Bluetooth settings. The available Bluetooth car then disappears from the list of available devices. Your iCar travels another 64 feet and stops, waiting for someone to now pair with “TheFartographer’s iCar.”
Pretty flawed design if you ask me
For best experience you should only be able to determine the direction the car is facing by pressing the gas pedal
I will say that if it had a port on the front my grandparents who bought Macs probably would have unboxed it, plugged it in, and used it like that for a decade without knowing it was wireless lol. And the battery lasts so long on these that it’s not actually an issue really if you’re living with it.
Still stupid tho
“our users are so fucking stupid, we had to kneecap our design and say it was superior”
I read that’s why they did this: to force people to use it wirelessly. Not sure that’s really a big win. Wired mice are just fine with me.
Still my favorite mouse I’ve ever used. Got it from work and expected to hate it, but there we were. I don’t use it anymore since I switched to Linux. RIP. Now I have a proto arc, which is fine.
proto arc
Wow, I expected them to be incredibly expensive, they look nice.
Yeah I recommend it if you’re in the market.
Lived? Aren’t they still selling them like that?
The USB-C version they currently have for $80 on their website has the port on the bottom, yes.
https://www.apple.com/shop/product/mxk53am/a/magic-mouse-usb‑c-white-multi-touch-surface
I don’t think the shape or functionality of the mouse has changed much since the original version that took AAs, so I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if this isn’t even designers being snooty and it’s just Apple not wanting to retool their manufacturing to accommodate a front charging port.
Whether true or not, I remember this being positioned as Apple not wanting people to just leave it plugged in all the time, they wanted people to be seen using a wireless mouse, so they forced you to use it wirelessly.
And this is exactly why I just have cheap mice with separate rechargeable batteries. Also just have enough battery-powered junk to justify it.
Nothing is close enough to the tower for wired, at about 15 foot away, and I’ll never remember to charge something if I cant just plug it in to a separate power source and charge while using.
Smart money would have been on a wirelessly charged mouse and a wireless charging mousepad. But nobody uses mousepads anymore, either, now that underside rollerball tracking isn’t an issue, so you can’t introduce something like that now.
Does such a thing exist, a wireless mouse with wireless charging mousepad? I’d expect it wouldn’t work because the coils would need to be aligned to charge.
No such thing exists to my knowledge no, but it could have back when the apple mouse was first introduced.
I have used a lot of wireless chargers (old phone usb port failed) and… the coil of the charger is typically the least of the problem, the charging coil on the device not matching up with it is usually the bigger issue.
But mice need basically no charge daily, and a mouse largely confined to a set area would, if well designed, always be on the useable charger space, so any mousepad with a trickle charge worth of capability would be plenty.
Turns out it does exist!
https://www.logitechg.com/en-us/shop/p/powerplay-wireless-charging
Good Lord.
Thank you for that.
Im saving this image for every time I need to charge my car and thus cant go somewhere.
Don’t give apple any ideas!
You mean, don’t let Apple give us any ideas:
Well. You also shouldn’t try to drive a car while charging either…
pet the damn car!
Hold X to flip iCar
Is it usbc still?
it’s a XL lightning cable
Best use of AI of all time
Can you also make it sit up and beg? How about play fetch?
Only after some belly rubs
Like a dead bug.
Gregor?
