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Did everyone in the comments suffer brain damage and forget about Hertz and its bullshit AI “scratch and dent” scanners? Or the hotels charging non-smokers $500 “smoking” fees because an AI smoke detector said so? Do people defending this shitty company not see the obvious and unavoidable conflict of interest companies have to make a system like this overly sensitive in order to rack up fines? It would be one thing if the threat was a ban from the service, but it’s just so clearly an excuse to generate more profits I’m shocked this needs to be pointed out.
I fail to see the problem with this. It is their property you are renting, and they are telling you to not fuck with it too much. Looks very reasonable to me. And all of those can be detected without any violation of privacy too.
IMO it kind of depends on whether their ‘riding violation’ detection system is overly sensitive, this could be a reasonable response or absolute bullshit depending on what the scooter pilot actually did.
Agreed, but
without any violation of privacy
just seems wrong. They know your payment info, your habits, the places you visit, the routes you take, and exactly how you’re using the scooter. Not to mention whatever the app might be doing in background. Their only way to violate privacy even more would be by filming the driver and the surroundings and selling all the data
Yeah, fair enough not wanting people to take their equipment to a skate park or otherwise abuse it.
People on this platform have some bizarre opinions sometimes.
For real. Like, they aren’t even giving you a fine. This is a polite warning to not do dumb shit on an expensive e-scooter. Beyond not wanting the things damaged, they probably also don’t want customers losing control and concussing themselves. Scooters are absurdly easy to crash as is.
This post is stupid.
Scooters are absurdly easy to crash as is.
Agreed with all of your comment but wanted to discuss this. A vehicle you are unfamiliar with is easy to crash and a rented scooter can have weird weight distribution. Still, like with a rented car it comes down to how reckless you are being as a driver. We (and I include myself in this group) tend to generally be a lot more comfortable being reckless on bikes and scooters than in cars in part because the potential damage from a bike crash is trivial compared to the potential damage from a car crash. So like, it’s likely not a simple, black and white single variable issue like “how bad a driver are they” in their database
My erstwhile manager told me that he once fell off a scooter and broke his leg very badly. According to him, the ER doctor said the only other time he’d seen that type and severity of breakage was when someone was parachuting, messed it up, and hit a tree.
I left a portion of my face on the sidewalk in Austin TX from one of these scooters. My drunk ass sure didn’t respect the danger these pose.
Oof. I hope your face grew back, I like your face.
I don’t understand how jumping curbs is supposed to be a problem, that’s just something you have to do to get around sometimes. It also seems like something that hitting potholes would easily get confused for.
You can get around without having to jump curbs, and potholes are also avoidable.
Scooters are supposed to be on the street. There is no need to jump any curbs.
Where I’m from there’s still a plenty of combined pedestrian/bike paths that have an annoyingly high curb after every crosswalk.
I’ll say again. Scooters are supposed to be on the street. Not on bike paths or sidewalks.
Well you’d be wrong. The law says they belong on bike paths here, and a lot of the time sidewalks are combined paths where bikes are supposed to go.
No no no, you missed the part where it says “lemmy.world” after their name, so their perspective is always correct. Read the Fediverse manual.
And where is that?
Finland, but it’s the same in all of the EU. Scooters are legally the same as bikes.
Yeah, I ride a bike a lot and escooters usually are treated the same as far as road laws go where they are allowed. Can’t think of when I have had to jump a kerb.
How is it dystopian to not damage things that don’t belong to you? Ride the scooter like a normal person, or buy your own for stunting…
And when you get warned anyway after not treating the scooter poorly?
Take all the copper, duh
I don’t think it’s corporate dick-sucking to say that if you use an e-scooter share, it’s not dystopian that the company administering them tries to track if you’re using them in a negligent way that causes unnecessary wear. It’s not yours.
The fact these corporations are running this kind of thing is itself problematic, but I also wouldn’t object if a government-administrated e-scooter share tried to detect poor behavior on a piece of equipment you don’t own.
I would be more accepting of escooter rentals if it wasn’t the only legal option to use an escooter in the UK. It’s fucking bullshit that they are essentially given a monopoly on renting a method of transport.
The things they listed are not negligent, and not even about wearing tear, bet you it’s about insurance. Liability insurance for personal injury.
Burnouts aren’t negligent and wear-causing? Do I need to stand behind one long enough before I can understand this logic?
Burnouts or spinning wheels it said. The automated nanny on the spy scooters is not a very good source apparently.
I mean, get your own scooter and you can do all the burnouts and hit all the curbs you want.
It’s illegal to use your own here, only allowed to rent one from which ever company has the monopoly to rent them out in your area. Or can’t use them at all as there isn’t anyone renting them out in your area.
Of course because there is no legal option to use your own many just do it illegally.
That’s like an entirely different set of dystopian problems than a company protecting their assets from abuse. Sorry your laws are fucked up.
You can own nothing and be happy about it, which looks like it’s going to be the case with you. Giving a corporation the benefit of the doubt ha.
You could also own a scooter and be happy about it. Because then nobody would be telling you how to ride it.
DANCING IS FORBIDDEN
Now I’m just going to grind harder. Tell me again and I’m hitting the half-pipe.
I’m just gonna keep on grinding forever
I hate the scooter kids who do this shit
How is everyone acting like the poster is at fault here? How do you know their AI detection system isn’t bullshit and they didn’t drive entirely reasonably, and the detection system is actually the problem?
Use some common sense, people… Both things are possible here, a reckless driver or an overzealous detection system.
I’ve worked service and repair jobs for decades. I will always default to the user was a jackass unless provided direct proof to the contrary.
It’s not long before “Abuse you like a rented scooter” becomes a new idiom.
I met someone that said that there are cracked apps that will allow you to “rent” these for free
What they don’t want is either you or somebody else to sue them because they know they’re enabling you to use an alt method of transport that offers no real guardrails.
How about don’t break rental shit?
