I hear a lot that people say the US Democratic Party would be right wing in Europe. But I see a lot of Europeans online say that their (left) parties are corrupt and right wing. What am I missing?

  • Solumbran@lemmy.world
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    15 days ago

    “Why do people call their government right wing despite not having slavery?”

    Since when is the lack of healthcare the norm, and healthcare the “leftist anomaly”?

    The US really made the world so much worse, it’s crazy.

  • PumpkinSkink@lemmy.world
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    15 days ago

    I’m just gonna post the Cory Doctorow quote

    "Take politics: One common refrain is that ‘‘I don’t even know what right or left even mean anymore, they’re just tribal identities.’’ Many years ago, I said something very like this to Steven Brust, who skewered me with his response:

    ‘‘‘Left’ and ‘right’ mean the same thing today that they’ve meant since the French Revolution. Ask someone, ‘What’s more important: property rights, or human rights?’ If they answer: ‘Property rights are human rights,’ they are on the right.’’"

  • mmddmm@lemm.ee
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    15 days ago

    Seems like you are from the US.

    As much as “left” and “right” carry any meaning anywhere, in your country those words have been redefined to the point they are completely meaningless.

    If you have any left-leaning organized political movement, it never makes the news. You only have extreme right.

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    15 days ago

    Basically extreme right in Europe is about at the same level as extreme left in the USA. That about explains how bad your country is right now

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      15 days ago

      Absolutely not? Like, we have real og facists™️ (not gatekeeping ‘it’s not fascisim if it doesn’t come from the Fascia region in Italy, it’s just sparkling authoritarianism’, just saying that there’s a continuity and fascist traditional over here) and they have an important presence in our politics since forever.

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        9 days ago

        You’re claiming that current European right wing is worse than. US right wing because the European right wing is based in the fascia region?

        That’s a whole new take right there…

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          8 days ago

          No. I’m not claiming such a thing, read the comment again, please. I wasn’t even one-upping the Americans just equating the situation–they have fascists, we have fascists, Oprah’s voice ‘everybody gets fascists!’…