More and more mainstream analysts are identifying the coming AI crash, which is a good indication that it will happen soon.
So, what happens to all the data centers? They are already built but probably very expensive to maintain. Will many of them just be abandoned? Bought up by cloud computing companies? Scammers? Crypto miners? Can they be parted out and sold off piecemeal?
Will they be put to some productive use, or just become massive e-waste sites left to the locals to deal with?
All this hardware is essentially worthless other than AI
They will just turn all the empty space inside into detention centers and keep all of us locked up.
If they’re already operational when that happens, likely sold off to cloud hyper scalers on the cheap. That or they’ll be turned into warehouses.
Nothing half done will just be abandoned and the land sold.
A boom in local AI as people buy the crazy expensive video cards for pennies on the dollar for home usage?
Those gpu’s are not useful as video cards.
I said for local AI, I didnt say for gaming.
As long as you want a high wattage server running the electric bill up.
Press X to doubt
Yeah, these cards will most likely be in pieces rather than reused by people.
It’s also just that local AI is not worth the time and energy unless you’re a prick with too much money and incoherent ideology
Incoherent ideology ?
There’s a few people who are like:
- AI bad, cause environmental, capitalism, and training data being based on spyware
- but if I run local AI, those magically all stop being true, because I think it hard enough
Ah, yeah, I’ve seen that.
There are also people who want to run locally for other reasons as well.
Privacy being a big one, but there are others.
I’m not sure what the ratios are though.
Wouldn’t that be an inconsistent ideology?
Same thing
I think that means a dictator with a speech impediment.
I like the joke
Spirit Halloween gonna have some massive sales.
Hopefully, for the CEOs and people who made them happen,
I’d argue that “burning the guillotine” can happen after it makes its comeback, but desperate times call for desperate measures.
The worst punishment anyone could inflict on those who govern and police us today would be to compel them to live in a society in which everything they’ve done is regarded as embarrassing
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LAN Party!AI isn’t going away, there may be some consolidation of providers and right sizing of costs but AI is here to stay. Too many big companies have invested too much for it to fail.
The operating costs of AI are prohibitively expensive even by the standards of US military budgets, and they are not the utility we were promised. Companies were told they could replace their entire workforce with AI and not only is that not true but now the subscription costs are going up.
It doesn’t matter how much consolidating you do the product still isn’t compelling and it’s still expensive as hell to operate.
Anthropic is expected to post a profit next quarter, it may prohibitively expensive to run but that doesn’t mean it can’t be profitable. But who knows, maybe they won’t.
I read somewhere that for every $1 they’re taking in in cash they’re spending $100 in operating costs. If they charge the amount of money they would need to charge in order to actually have net income they wouldn’t have any customers.
We’ll see if they post a profit or not but if they do then your source was probably an AI hallucination.
I’m not saying changes aren’t coming, if they can’t make a profit off it then they’ll need to adapt or die. So it will either get more expensive or more efficient, but I don’t believe the bubble will burst and there will suddenly be a fire sale on cheap data centres or their hardware.
The issue is really the use cases for AI have been way overblown. The AI companies sold it as an employee replacer. “It’ll cost pennies on the dollar, have better accuracy, and doesn’t need time off!” That’s not actually what it is though. Companies are coming to terms with AI being more expensive, less accurate, and dumb.
A piece of software I use at work is a great example and they barely oversold the capabilities. The software has a built in AI assistant which is pretty good at pointing you in the right direction to get the result you want. Then some genius realized it could also pull report data, so they removed some metric options from the reports and now I have to spend significantly longer prompting the AI to pull the metrics I want in a usable format. This is also far more computing power. So they decided to let you link other AI agents to their software so you could use another bigger model for “better results” (they don’t want to pay for all that AI themselves). Nobody bit, nobody linked to another AI because nobody wants to pay more. They’re quietly adding those metrics back to the reports now.
When its really AI and turns into something mature and clearly useful I will use it. Until they come up with real AI I will continue to point and laugh.
My doom scenario: They will become low security prisons/manufacturing factories.
Or Company Housing to go along with the Company Store where you will always be short 1 Company Buck to buy that half loaf of day old white bread…same thing, really.Most of them aren’t even built yet.
The ones being built or planned to be built will have to be sold off.
Probably not abadndoned, but land owner changing several hands in what is essentially someone buying a vacant lot. Maybe a handful will reuse any existing building already made, but most will be used for something new.
The existing ones will start their fight to the lowest market price which will probably cause many to either sell to a different cloud provider or change hardware to something more profitable.
None of the electronic hardware will go to waste because there will always be a demand for it, even if they sell it off at a loss. But any permanent fixtures like industrial cabling, ventilation, piping, etc probably will be wasted.
There’s still no guarantee on whether it’ll implode or just slowly deflate though. The natural assumption would be that the post IPO pricing will completely wreck sales and value, but they could easily move to an enterprise vendor lock scenario where they can charge whatever they want due to tech stack deals like how MSFT runs teams.
Remember, they’ll do anything in their power to keep the pumping going, even if it involves tax bailouts.
Hire funny wood it be if they tried to get a tax bail out and Trump approved it but he actually can’t do it since there’s no money left to bail them out
Get ready for the 2040 internet trend “spending the night in an abandoned data center”
Horror movie idea: The Rackrooms
The Racks
Has a good double entendre for horror
Apparently the US government is looking to give a massive bailout under the guise of “public partnership” so the public will pay for them and then corporations will get to use them and not pay us more than likely. They’ll be put to use, we’ll pay for them to take our jobs. It’s really the best situation possible…
/Wrist
This is the most accurate assessment of the situation I have heard thus far.
2008 with hardware.
Hardware that dies in 5 years. At least the houses are still around assuming they didn’t get wiped out with those fires
American houses are built with cardboard paper, I wouldn’t be surprised if they’ve been destroyed by now.
I hate that this is actually pretty accurate, depending on which contractor you go with.
Whole neighborhoods were built during the housing bubble that had contaminated drywall (gypsum board) with sulfate VOCs that had to be gutted or torn down completely.
Survielllance centers for all the data being stolen off your smartphone and flock cameras.
If anyone thinks I’m wrong, they’re completely blind to what’s going on and their future plan.
If anyone thinks I’m wrong, they’re completely blind to what’s going on and their future plan.
But the hallucination problem means that everyone will end up with a meaningless list of AI hallucinated “prior offenses” that could be used to arrest, detain and disappear literally anyone, based on mismatched unaudited surveillance footage of completely different people.
I’m thankful that no powerful persons today want a world where they can do that to anyone they find inconvenient.
It would be genuinely alarming if we had any total assholes out there with wealth or power or both.
Mmhm very alarming. Good thing we are safe.
What the LLMs can do reasonably well though is determine the political leanings of people’s typed messages, so it can sort people into lists of potential dissidents based on their risk to the state, then they can have the human agents do the framing for arrest. The AI is probably terrible at doing that consistently too, but they don’t have the personnel to do it by hand and the false positives still work to instill the fear of it.
you dropped this, /s
someone might mistake you for a brain damaged psych patient without it.
do not insult my patients
patents?
Survielllance centers for all the data being stolen off your smartphone and flock cameras.
Yes, and other sources. That’s my theory as to why most of them are being built in the first place, regardless of AI.
I dont believe its a theory. Its absolute fact. Why else would they be requiring cameras in all cars next year, and putting flock cameras all over every city? That surveillance data needs to be stored and sorted through. This is the real reason for the massive push of data centers and bribery of politicians.
Yes, they’ve been wanting to do it for many years, even before 9/11 but especially after (remember “Total Information Awareness”?–back then the backlash stopped them, but now the populace has been mostly tamed and made compliant). So now with AI/LLM they have not only the perfect cover to build the datacenters but also the means to process all that data–never mind hallucinations, they’re fine with that too.
We can only hope for an Anonymous level sabotage group.
Do yoy have any proof for that or is that just what you think is going to happen?
There’s no AI crash coming. It’s pure copium.
Why has the tech become affordable and useful all of a sudden?
