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I see self censorship, I downvote it
What? Uber had algorithms to determine whether the person is drunk or not and surge the price for them back when I was working for them in 2019
Recovering Uber driver here.
I drove back in 2017-2018, and at that time Uber was starting to get difficult about reimbursing cleaning fees when some drunk puked in the car, which made fewer drivers want to pick up drunks. I can’t imagine the situation has improved since then.
So wait.
You get charged a cleaning fee if you puke in someones car… but uber wont give the cleaning fee to the driver, you know…the person who has to have their car cleaned?
I unfortunately drove Uber for a bit back in the late 2010s until I got tired of being sexually harassed. Drivers do get paid the cleaning fee, but the rideshare services were becoming increasingly stringent about their requirements for paying it. The issue was threefold.
People would soil vehicles then dispute the cleaning charges with their credit card, so Uber would be out whatever was paid to the driver. Last I knew, this was a maximum of $225, but capped at $80 if the driver did the cleaning. Good luck finding a professional cleaner that charges less than $225 for cleaning seats smeared with vomit or feces.
Next, drivers would fake vomit or feces and file a report, causing their prior passengers to be charged a cleaning fee.
Ultimately, the ride share services tightened up their methods for both charging and refunding these fees to the detriment of both drivers and riders because they’re soulless, capitalist pig fuckers that only care about profit.
Whew, I sure am glad that somebody haphazardly crossed out that ‘u’. I might have had to read the word “drunk” otherwise.
Thats a lie if they know you are drunk they will hit you with surge pricing. They are doing something similar with phone battery, if the battery is low they hit you with surge pricing!
Dude I am so sick of all these weird half assed randomly censored posts. You can say drunk on the internet. You can say onlyfans on the internet. You can say fuck these goddamn piece of shit cuntsicles on the internet. Jesus fucking christ.
they got you, mission accomplished
Oh shut the fuck up, Lemmy doesn’t have algorithms that deal with content bait bullshit like this. Take your karma farming comments to reddit.
I mean, I did find this post because it got pushed to the top of my Active feed…
Lemmy does in fact have algorithms. Just transparent ones
I think when they do it with words like this is for engagement.
Free comments.
Damn it I walked right in to it
Exactly. I don’t come to the fediverse for this weirdly censored, unsubstantiated bullshit. I’m downvoting and moving on, but I’m also as disappointed as the cricket guy meme.
Seek repentance, now!
downvoted for using shitty censorship to fuel engagement
Fueling engagement seemed to have worked on you
This is Fediverse, dipshit, not tik tok.
by this point most people in america probably don’t remember taxi cabs. they would often be dirty and driven by a disheveled wildman. these drivers answered to no one other than their dispatcher who gave just as little of a fuck.
do you have a problem with the driver? did he smell bad, did he talk too much, did he blast a master P song at full volume for the entire ride despite your objections?
tough shit.
uber was built in response to this. it was not only based on these occasional bad experiences, but to ensure that every working class person was on their best behavior when in the presence of their betters. it was never about a service or bettering anything, other than sparing the better-off from mild inconvenience.
Hell I remember trying to get a cab home from a bar pre-ride share and them telling me itd be two hours. I slept in my car in the parking lot instead.
I thought that line was a worm on my screen
Is there an actual source for this? I tried searching news for “Uber will know you’re drunk” and found nothing, I reverse look-upped the meme and saw it nowhere, there is no indication of a source in the meme.
I want to know how they will know that you’re drunk, and I want to know why they want to cut off what I assume is a decent chunk of their clientele, but I’m not seeing anything.
I found articles from 6 years ago that says that uber drives have the choice to turn you down if they think you’re too drunk or obnoxious
I would have thought that was always the case, but maybe not.
So it reads to me that it’s not that Uber will be like, “he’s legally drunk, he can’t use our service”, it’s, “I went to pick this guy up and he was vomiting and his pants were falling down so I decided to turn him down”
It should be noted I did not actually click these links and read the articles or anything, that’s just how it appeared. So, take it with a grain of salt. I might have read the articles except I don’t drink so I don’t really care
“Dating app could soon tell if you’re horny and refuse service.” Let them shoot themselves in the foot if they want, I guess?
Tumblr and OF both attempted to ban NSFW to appease advertisers.
OF pulled the plug immediately but Tumblr never recovered
Far more likely scenario
Uber can now tell when you’re drunk, and don’t have a car and will charge you more because you’re desperate.
And not pay the driver any extra
like going to a strip club
At least you get free breakfast buffet at strip clubs. (Or you did the last time I went to one more than 20 years ago.)
The point of Uber is to make money. As long as businesses can make money by kicking you in the face, they will do it.
They already know you’re drunk. They’ve known for years. They just hike the prices.
Know what doesn’t refuse to pick you up if you’re pished? The Night Bus.
PUBLIC TRANSPORT WINS AGAIN! INVEST IN PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION!
Damn I wish. There are zero options but cars where I live.
assuming you have a public transit system that operates at night, and is worth a damn.
I know there are places where buses stop running long before the bars close.
Okay, maybe you should lobby your local government for better public transport? Because let’s be honest with you, you can’t have a healthy nightlife without public transport at night.
If the patrons of bars and clubs only have the option to drive to your location and drive back, they’re either not going to drink as much as they would, not going to visit as often because they’re going to have to drop stacks on a cab, or they’re going to drink and drive.
You can’t have a healthy nightlife without public transport at night. The only places that I can think of if I can get away with having no public transport and having some form of nightlife are wee villages, because you can walk home.
If you want a healthy nightlife, invest in public transport. If you don’t want to invest in public transport, prepare to spend your nights drinking alone in your house.
Thats on the base assumption that your local municipality wants a healthy nightlife.
Which is a brave assumption to make.
A city not wanting to have a healthy nightlife, to me, is a bit like a city not wanting to have shops: it’s a royally stupid position to make.
The nighttime economy is hella important to any city because it’s a big money spinner. Here you have a load of people who either have finished work or have the weekend off and they’re looking for shit to do that isn’t staring at the TV drinking tinnies they bought on the way home from work and they wanna go out to bars with their friends, or to a restaurant, or a show. Those bars, clubs, restaurants, theaters and take outs make money and pay tax which the city can use for shit they need. Oh, and those Pubs? They can act as community nexuses, so there’s a fucking social benefit too. The idea of a city having no nightlife is genuinely a dumber idea than when they turned cities into car centric hellholes, and that was a very dumb idea that most cities are struggling to deal with even now.
Want to know how universal nightlife is? Cultures that don’t drink have nightlife. Muslim countries have night markets and cafes because it’s almost a universal thing that after work, at night, people wanna hang out and do things. Even before civilization we used to gather round fires to listen to stories and shit, that’s how universal it is.
I have been to villages with nightlife, several pubs where locals and visitors alike go to have a drink or maybe see live music. I have been to hamlets with a pub open until 11 where people go to vibe with a pint. Hell, even dormtowns I have been to have at least one watering hole. If your authorities are fighting against nightlife, then they are ultra-authoritarian asshats who hate money and human joy.
I’m sorry that you are only now just learning that government can be stupid and myopic
BE PUNK IN DRUBLIC
But public transport won’t make a handful of people rich, so that’s a non starter for many.
And you might have to reckon with living in a society, with other kinds of people. You’d really ask someone to ride a bus with a {slur of your choice} just sitting there, like they’re entitled to peace and dignity?
In other words, conservatives are fuck heads who make the world worse for stupid reasons.
Edit: fix autocorrect mistake
“This is the future the liberals want”.
What, a society where a Niqabi and a drag queen can share a train carriage? A world where two different people can share the same spaces? Oh the horror!
That’s a pretty dopeass future.
how is this not posted as straight satire? Why is every one of these images cooler than the last?
Yes, but also not a big fan of oppressive religious dress codes.
Good news: you don’t have to ascribe to an oppressive religious dress code. The people that do want to dress in ways that conform to their religious and cultural beliefs can, and that continues to have fuck-all to do with you.
What about the ones who don’t want to, but are forced into it?
We should obviously ensure it’s safe for them to leave such a situation and provide education on the resources available to anyone looking to flee a hostile domestic environment.
What about people who want to be naked? Have you conisidered them, you chauvanist pig?
What about people pushing/forcing their partner into wearing more revealing clothes than they are comfortable in? Or just otherwise controlling it. Sure, abuse like that should be illegal (it often already is, although enforcement is usually terrible) and there needs to be support for people to get out of bad situations. But you’d never see those cases because they’re not visibly other from you in the same way.
That’s not okay, which is why where are not and should not be any laws in our country regarding what to wear, what to read, what you are allowed to do with your body (as long as it doesn’t violate someone else’s or force them into violent, gory, or sexual situations)
You hearing this, Christians? The USA isn’t here for you to make puritanical.
The men forcing women to dress like this aren’t using the law to force them. Laws forbidding dressing like this are, theoretically, to protect them from being forced.
They should have programs that support them and do outreach, not bans.
The ones forced into it, I pity. In my area, it’s fairly common to see a women (and girls) out in the park in full religious garb, while their husband is in sweatpants and flip-flops. It definitely makes me angry. I honestly don’t think anyone chooses to dress like this unless they are forced to by a man.
In general I think we need to look to what feminists from similar cultural backgrounds to this say we should do and amplify their voices. I really don’t want to get into a position where many of them see feminism as at odds with their culture, religion, and other beliefs. It’s an ideology that must adapt to a culture in order to serve as a liberatory force within it
I see this sometimes from a distance, even with children. The boys are wild and loose, the girls on a tight leash.
Unfortunately, trying to address that with the sledgehammer of The State is not easy to do safely.
I’m open to the probability that there are such women. But I can’t imagine that they area anything but a sharp minority.
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Unfortunately the people that don’t want to conform to the dress code of their religion get beheaded.
Not so much in liberal democracies.
Sadly, the US is on its way toward becoming an autocratic religious state.
Or have their genitals mutilated
Nah liberals are people like Hakeem Jeffries. This is the future that actually free people want.
(Also phone girl can get it)
Stop leading with the first sentence, you’re giving it strength not being smart.
Public transit stops at midnight where I live. Won’t work for someone out at 2am.
Last time we did the smart thing and we stayed till first train in the morning. Was also cheaper to drink till dawn and eat shit in McDonald’s than take taxi home 🤣
In the U.S. there are only two places that serve alcohol 24/7 (New York and Las Vegas). Pretty much everywhere else stops serving at 2am
Truly a fascist country
New Orleans is all night as far as I am aware
I forgot about New Orleans!
What if I told you lots of places don’t follow the rules
Well, sure, but how is that relavent?
Big difference between serving alcohol and selling alcohol. When I was doing 3rd shift, we’d get out at 5AM, head straight for the gas station, and pour tallboys into paper cups and drink in front of the store.
First bus home came by at 6:30. I was usually pretty buzzed by then.
Meanwhile in my country you can serve alcohol all night, but you can only sell it (to go) between 10 AM and 10 PM
Better start early then 🤷♂️
Sounds like a you problem. I dont live in a place where they run 24/7 but they run long enough at night on holidays. Also, if you are partying until 2am don’t be a weak sauce, party until 6 and then next day transit starts.
I have a somewhat vivid memory of sprinting through NY Penn Station around midnight to get the last train home, back before I lived in the city. Was a deciding factor in me moving. Had to leave my friend’s Halloween party at like 10 to get the last train.
Yeah, the issue there is that public transport wasn’t extended for Halloween. Here on holidays public transport either has an extended timetable or we get a separate night bus routes that start at the city centre (around 200k “city”) and send you to anywhere in the city. Those run until 6am when normal bus service starts so you get 24h service. For people from nearby towns they have their own bus/train service which in holidays runs 24h too.
I understand being fucked in a random weekend, but on holidays? That’s fucked up man.
Edit: just to be clear here anything over 30m is kinda fucked too, but that’s like a different province already so people from that far tend to have a plan. In any case if you were on a big city like Barcelona or Madrid where 30m you are still in the city, this wouldn’t be an issue ofc.
and cop cars
Lol. People say take the bus, but who the hell wants to be on a bus with drunk people?
Public transport is the worst environment ever already, even before the drunks. It’s a choice only when we can’t drive for some reason.
I took the bus yesterday and I felt extreamly depressed to see all the weird, broken people around me, acting like morons. It may be elitist, sure, that’s fair. But people are actually very unpleasant on public transport, and specially at night.
I take the bus regularly, it’s fine. Heard this shit all my life, then lost my license due to epilepsy and thought “oh crap.” Turns out it’s fine and actually a great way to dodge giving a shit about where I park.
This is the most American takeaway I have heard. It’s not my fault your country doesn’t invest in public transport, resulting in dead cities with no third places, endless traffic, no walkability and it seems, from you, rampant snobbish classism.
Also you going home from a bar, a place that is famously full of drunk people, complaining about drunk people on the bus while you’re coming home from the place where all those drunk people are coming from is a bit like complaining about fursuiters on the bus while you’re coming home from a fursuit convention.
Also drunk people on the bus is 100% better than the alternatives, that is drunk people driving or zero bars in your city because their customers can’t come home after drinking without dropping a stack just to get home.
Where I come from we invested in public transport, and when I say we invest in public transport, I mean we invest in public transport. Everyone takes the bus here, regardless of who they are, because It’s the easiest way to get into town and back because the alternative is unviable and inconvenient, especially if you are going out on the pish. We have rich office workers on the bus alongside poor gig workers. And the nightbuses are used by both pishheads and night workers to get home or to work or wherever, and it’s not too bad, not anymore annoying than pishheads at the bars at least.
America doesn’t invest in public transport because they want to force you to drive, they don’t want to give you the choice, they keep public transport either non-existent or useless, so you don’t have a choice but to drop thousands of dollars every year just to leave your house. This has resulted in a situation where most American cities look like Glorified motorway junctions dotted with unwalkable housing estates and strip malls. No, that is not because the city was founded in 1950 when people started buying cars, most American cities were founded much older than that and had public transport systems, but got rid of them to force people to drive, literally demolishing the entire city to turn it into a collection of strip malls and steroids.
You want a healthy nightlife, invest in public transport and nightbuses. Don’t want to invest in that, have fun with drunk drivers, expensive taxis, no nightlife, and drinking alone in your house because you can’t fucking leave your house without a car.
It’s a good comment, even though I’m not American and I wasn’t returning home from the pub. :) . But sure, if public transport was actually good, it would be nice to use it. Currently it sucks extreamly much and is pretty much like transporting cattle from A to B to as low cost as possible.
If it was high quality, nice chairs, low noise… Modern buses… Then it would be amazing. But it’s not like that in most cities. It’s usually loud, packed, full of people who don’t care about being quiet or how they smell like.
The idea is good, the execution is definently “low cost transport” in an even worse way then budget airlines.
I felt extreamly depressed to see all the weird, broken people around me, acting like morons.
I was going to give you shit, but then I realized this is exactly how I feel whenever I drive anywhere…
I dont see people when I drive really… That’s what I like about it. Just me, the car and some nice music.
I’m not going back to shitting my pants in a common taxi cab.
Yeah. It’s much classier to shit one’s pants in the backseat of a total stranger’s car. 💩👖
That’s private transportation to you good sir/ma’am!
I’m getting used to the smell of peed pants on the bus.
It’s just ammonia.
This is something I’m to European to understand.
Not my fault your country disinvested in public transport to force your to drive, killing off third spaces for the enrichment of car companies.
I just said I’m riding the bus, where did this come from?
