Two-thirds of Americans say that the country is “pretty seriously off on the wrong track,” while just under a third say the country is moving in the right direction, according to an ABC News/Washington Post/Ipsos poll conducted using Ipsos’ KnowledgePanel.
Overall, Americans seem unhappy and anxious, with a slim majority saying the economy has gotten worse since President Donald Trump took office and majorities saying that both major parties and the president are out of touch. A majority of Americans are also growing increasingly concerned over the government shutdown.
Ah the inevitable Find Out, eh?
If the last 10 years have proven anything, it’s that Americans are REEEEEEAAAAALLY fucking stupid.
Whether the majority of America disapproves of this fascist or not, it’s a nation of dimwits and we’re going to keep voting against ourselves. It’s why we’re here to begin with. Trump didn’t make any of this happen. He’s a fucking idiot. We did it to ourselves, because too many of us are beyond stupid.
Sorry for being a downer, but I expect this ship to keep sinking for the remainder of my life. I’ve seen too much stupid to believe otherwise.
70% literacy rate or so. But I also quit giving a shit, America is done.
I’ve stopped caring, since the planet is boiling anyway.
America has Dorian Grey’d itself, and now the painting is dumping all the trauma back. The world isn’t far behind.
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And just like that…nothing changed.
Yeah, turns out polls are aren’t magical incantations that instantaneously change things.
It would have been awesome if my idiot fucking countrymen had done the barest scintilla of research and realized that this was always his fucking game plan
I think a good number of your countryman wanted his plan.
1/3 as shown by the votes and this poll. Those people are straight up dumb.
And another third of us are so fucking stupid and apathetic they didn’t care enough to vote
And another third of us are losing our minds watching what’s happening right now
Maybe that third that didn’t go to vote has something to do with not presenting someone that made them vote. Someone that represented them, not the wealthy.
Maybe that third that didn’t go to vote has something to do with not presenting someone that made them vote
Apparently voting against a bastard like Trump wasn’t enough of a motivation…
Maybe the ones that stayed at home though “it will be just like the first time” and not shitshow that it is.
Hoping for “Just like the first time” is still pretty dismal.
Are you happy with the result of that choice?
No. But that doesn’t mean the Dems didn’t fucked it up with Harris… and the rest of things that gave Trump the White House twice.
Trump is only the current chapter of the descent to hell that started with Nixon. If every Dem POTUS had done his job Trump would be only a TV star.
While I get what you’re saying, fascism is not an improvement over neoliberalism.
They can think that when the opposing option wasn’t literal fascism. They’re dumb as fuck when it was.
But it always is fascism. Because the center always goes to the right when the big party starts saying “it’s us or chaos”. Because people start to think “if this isn’t chaos maybe we should try with chaos” or worse: “if those are the options I’m not playing that game anymore”.
The only way to not lean right is by doing real leftist policies, the ones that make people’s life better. And the Dems haven’t done so in decades. Only some crumbs to have social peace but nothing that can be seen as a game change in politics. And I’m not talking about turning the US into a communist country. I’m talking about, maybe, have public housing for those that can’t afford a better place. Having public markets with only first need food (bread, milk, eggs, …) with affordable prices. Having a good public railroad system, payed by the companies that use it, and high speed trains to relay less in flights and cars. Having a public health system where you don’t have to pay cash to be cured. After all, everyone gets sick sometime.
I am just so sick of saying “I fucking told you so.”
Oh that’s for damn sure
Wait until next spring when the shit really kicks in. Shorten it to IFTYS.
‘bbbuttt… Harris said she’d continue bidens policies!! Waaahhhhh! The parties didn’t field realistic candidates that matched my expectations! It’s the politicians fault!! It’s the systems fault!’
Trump said he’d do much worse, and here we are. Happy yet, sit-outs and ballot spoilers? Ready to take your elections seriously?
Do you really think the media is doing a good job of getting accurate and fair information to voters in an impartial way? Could we improve our electoral system to make it easier and more convenient for working people to vote?
So maybe instead of blaming people as individuals for failing to meet a systemic and worsening series of problems we should expect that our political leaders have some sort of plan for restoring democracy in a way that combats republican corruption.
How do you think fascism happens? Voter apathy?
Trump and Harris had record turnout in 2024. People voting for Trump against Harris in 2024 had a bigger effect than apathy for Clinton in 2016.
Characterizing it this way does not give people a realistic impression of what happened in 2024.
Of voting eligible population the % voting went up from 2016 to 2020 and down from 2020 to 2024. You absolutely can connect voter turnout to this problem as well as increasing barriers to voting.
I don’t even know if it requires research to belive that he means the bad things he says. Safe rule of thumb I’ve found for Republicans is assume they are lying about anything positive and telling the truth about the bad things they want to do.
But, it’s fake news though, right? Right?
As long as he’s not raising taxes on our rulers, our fellow countrymen are glad to have him over a progressive.
We really are stupid and being herded like sheep.
The crazy thing about the whole SNAP expiration thing is that that’s the “bread” of “bread and circus”. Circus is football. If he or someone in the admin would have made a specific point of making sure food benefits stayed in place, a lot more people would still be content to “stay out of politics” and march along like copacetic lemmings right off the fucking fascism cliff. So, in a dark sort of way… I think this might actually be good in the long run, though it will hurt (and perhaps kill) a LOT of people in the short term.
At the same time, who fucking knows. This is uncharted territory. Last time around, the fascists didn’t have a nuclear arsenal numbering in the thousands, nor did they formerly serve as one of the primary geopolitical lynchpins of democratic order.
it will hurt (and perhaps kill) a LOT of people
It is hurting a lot of people NOW and they haven’t even gotten a good start.
When people revolt just watch: he’s going to bring out Jason Segel and declare Marshall law
Propaganda not only works, it’s been very well refined.
It all came as a surprise. Before the elections he seemed to be so sane.
“seemed to be so sane”?
I mean term 1, maybe?
After jan 6, dude seems deranged af
I think it was a joke
difficult to tell anymore
I think so too.
Most Americans say country is on the wrong track, blame Trump for inflation, disapprove of the president and say he is going too far to expand power of presidency
Democrats: “Oh shit, this is actually working, quick, find 8 fall guys to let the budget pass!”
(yes, that is really happening- 8 democrats have broken with the party and said they would be willing to vote for it.)
I don’t see any news to corroborate that claim. Link?
Sure. First one that came up for me was https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5584077-democrats-snap-funding-shutdown-concerns/ I can’t find the original article the person linked when I saw it, the politics channel of that discord is… uh, lets go with ‘busy’ lol
Thank you!
Sounds like the centrists are starting to lose their nerve once their constituents start suffering. That is one of my theories of how the shut down ends.
Well, what are you guys gonna do about it?
I’m mad as heck and oh look new Netflix series!
A new Netflix series powered by AI you say??
There was the never-ending Seinfeld episode…
Typical
What’s it about?
I was watching
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2070791/
" a group of revolutionaries seek to drive out a tyrannical militia that’s taken over the former United States of America."
as if
Huh, netflix doesn’t offer that in it’s American region.
It’s a bit obscure I guess, I found it on DVD while thrifting, I never heard of it before. I enjoy these types of shows. Another series that’s in the vein of the fall of our infrastructure is Jericho. Recommend.
It’s about a quirky and woke person standing up against a thinly veiled metaphor for oppressive society, overthrowing their wealth and power but doing so in a loving and peaceful way, then acquiring the same wealth and power, but like in a good way because they’re the good one.
I dunno why but it’s just really hitting the spot rn
Gotta get past that whole “Two-thirds” because it’s that one-third that voted for him and elected him to office.
A minimum 1/3 of the US is comprised of Nazis. Nearly every poll shows this.
It never stops shocking me how awful people are. All it took was trump taking the muzzle off for a huge chunk of the country to reveal what shitty people they are.
I think it’s more that a huge chunk of the population have externally defined morality and thus are very malleable. Many many people do not enjoy the hard work of figuring out their own self-consistent views of right and wrong. So they let their culture define it for them, which the people in charge are more than happy to do. So when the prevailing culture told them it was wrong to be racist against black Americans, they believed it. And now that the culture they stew in tells them (e.g.) black Americans are lazy moochers, they believe that.
He still has something like a 43% approval rating. That’s still 100% too much.
You can ask pointed ideological questions to come to whatever conclusions you want in a survey. 1/3 of the US is not Nazis, you obviously either don’t live here or don’t go outside. Nearly every poll does not show this lol.
I mean, I’m not the original commenter and I don’t think they’re literally nazis myself. But ~39% of Americans have stood with Trump through both presidencies. When every poll (popularity, opinions on ICE, shutdown, etc.) seems to land around that same number, it means there is some consistent cohort there.
Many people, and this isn’t just exclusive to the U.S., aren’t racist, but their policy stances have racist outcomes. For instance, people fear crime or the loss or destruction of their property, so almost universally people vote for more policing, despite the lack of evidence that your suburban police department with military equipment makes you any safer.
As Avenue Q says - Everyone’s a Little Bit Racist.
But also, I never said anything about racism. To me it seems like there is a large part of the US that is willing to give up the ideals of our country (due process, free speech, voting rights), if they can get the policies they think they want.
True, and I was just using racism as an example. I guess I also could have just said people regularly vote against their own best interests due to lack of understanding the long-term effects.
I lived in the US for nearly my whole life until I fled earlier this year specifically because of Trump’s (and his supporters’) threats against my communities. His administration is openly composed entirely of Nazis. Anyone who continues to support him is a Nazi, which currently sits at 39%. You don’t openly call for the death of all Latino and trans people unless you’re a Nazi. So yes, that 39% is all Nazis.
Yeah you need to talk to people in the real world, it will do you some good and allow you to re-calibrate your perspective to one more based in reality.
Nobody wants death, as hard as that may be for you to believe. Your conclusion is the one you arrive at when being chronically online and only seeing the worst of the worst (whether true or not or exaggerated partial truths) designed to enrage you to engage and drive algorithms.
Real people are not the political figures you see online, and the stances and beliefs of political figures cannot be automatically applied to every person who voted for them, as much as you might like that. No person is their government or their country.
You have the mindset of somebody looking for a reason why it’s okay to kill 39% of the US population, which ironically gives you something in common with Nazi ideology.
If we keep calling them Nazi’s and they keep calling us radical whatever’s, we just end up killing each other. I think we should not do that.
You need to realize that the things you see and experience are not seen and experienced by other people and vice versa. We’re all operating off of the information we have and our personal experiences. If you had the information and experiences a typical MAGA conservative had, guess what, you’d be a MAGA conservative. Don’t let algorithms and political polarization make you lose your grip on humanity and treat your neighbors like scum.
This shit is why we’re so divided.
“If you had the information and experiences a typical MAGA conservative had, guess what, you’d be a typical MAGA conservative.”
Well POC and LBGTQ people don’t get the privilege of the same experiences MAGA conservatives have. - You live in a bubble
I guess racism and Christian nationalism over a peaceful life for all, is why we’re so divided.
They voted conservative, what did they expect?
If you want your life to get better, you vote left, if you want it to get worse, you vote right.
We’ve got the whole 20th century as evidence of this
Well.
It depends on your tax bracket and property values, doesn’t it?
I’m in the top bracket, tax me more, the world gets better when you do
But also, frankly maybe tax wealth over work.
Work is productive to society, wealth is parasitic.
Property values (sensibly) go down with appropriate wealth tax.
If taxes could buy society s goodwill, I d hope they d be a bit pricier
i’m in the lowest tax bracket, but someday I’ll be on the top… 🤦
There another option, you believe only the local rich employer can help you.
Grew up in a small town with only one big employer. If they said bigger taxes would mean layoffs, will the town hated the idea of bigger taxes., because the employer was seen as the only things keeping a respectable and comfortable lifestyle possible in the community.
Welfare was both inadequate and shameful, and other than that, they didn’t see upside to government spending. The big projects they see were things like building a big bypass for a big city to have better traffic. Meanwhile all the infrastructure spending closer to home was less dramatic. The roads thanklessly kept drivable without any dramatic news coverage. The local medical center kept afloat by federal spending without anyone really highlighting that. Easy to make the narrative that big government takes your money and gives it to city folk, and anything the employer does to the community is forced by big bad government.
Sometimes I wonder if taxes aren’t really about redistributing wealth, but about testing the limits of our endurance
Yes, when the rich get a flat tax and you’re taxed at the same rate as people earning millions a year. (You’re already in a higher bracket than the very wealthy, since they pay capital gains taxes and use tricks like borrowing money instead of selling stocks to get cash.)
Then they just say “oh yeah this is a high tax rate for me since I’m poor right now, but it will stay the same no matter how much I make!”
If you want your life to get better, you need to stop relying on politics.
Oh Democrats definitively are out of touch, but to compare that to how the
RepublicRepublicans are out of touch is slightly disingenuousBut will they vote or just shrug it off as politics as usual
We need to start impeaching and recalling every damn politician up the chain until we have people who will fucking do something.
I think we maybe need some strikes or something. Shut off the treat faucets for a couple days.
Then. Do. Something. About. It.
If there are really two thirds of you, it shouldn’t be too hard to stop this shit
If you respect the Constitution, then you have to let it play out. A year from now are the Midterm Elections, with Congress on the line. How they behave around that will determine what happens beyond that.
Will they openly suppress the vote as much as possible? Absolutely, but how far will that go? Do they refuse to sweat in the winning Dems, and illegally keep their majority?
What if they invent an excuse to suspend elections? That’s a bright red line. No election had ever been suspended in American History, not even during the Civil War. For many, that would signal the end of Democracy, and the official beginning of a Civil War, although it would look very weird in the beginning. The first steps would be Blue states refusing to cooperate with the illegitimate MAGA Congress.
110% this shit. It’ll be a slow but powerful buildup. People just think we’re sitting on our fat asses going: “Lol. Whoopsies! Guess we have a Nazi president! Our bad,” No! The No Kings protests alone prove we’re already unhappy. If they try something as serious as the suspension of an election in this environment? Suicide for them.
Yes, the “be in your best behavior and don’t cause too much trouble” protest has definitely marked a middle point in their fascist actions.
And you’d be surprised https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-posts-ai-video-dumping-no-kings-protesters-rcna238521
Bro went out of his way to respond meaning it had some impact.
I’m not going to begrudge the people who think resistance needs to be more kinetic, but that’s not who I am. I’m fucking 52 years old and have never been a fighter. I barely know how to punch properly, and while I can shoot a gun, I’ve never shot a gun while being shot at, and likely would be as much a danger to my side as to the other side. I suspect a whole lot of that 2/3rds we’re dismissing in the polling is like me. The protests bring us out. Civil war will have us hiding or fleeing.
And like others have said. Trump was so annoyed by our presence he generated AI slop. We live rent free in his head.
Yep, no reason to infight over protest strategies; we should be doing all of them, all at once. The Overton Window works both ways, like how the threat represented by the Deacon’s for Defense made the thought of negotiating with MLK seem much more appetizing.
If a civil war, or even just a general strike, does happen, the people on the frontlines will still need people like you for support roles.
There’s a lot of middle ground between “don’t get in the way and make sure you clean up when you’re done” and “shoot at people while being shot at.”
Trump is going to have his daily whining session about something, him crying about Jimmie Kimmel doesn’t mean Jimmie Kimmel is going to prevent him from being a fascist.
‘Changing the mind of 170 million people shouldn’t be too hard’
Ok bro I’m on it.
I asked them and they said ‘no’. What’s plan B?
This. Poll. Just. Came. Out. We’re. Not. Fucking. Magicians.
You. Don’t. Need. To. Be. To. Have. Realized. He. Was. Like. This. Since. Before. His-
First fucking term and even before that. This bit’s old already.
The entire premise of his comment is that no action has been taken as of the poll’s release.
This recent poll, obviously, does not represent opinion going back to 2016. Trump is president because a lot of stupid people either voted for or refused to vote against him.
Acting like anything can be done instantaneously as a result of a poll proves that it’s not only Americans that have their share of stupid people.
We have been on the wrong track for decades. Luckily Trump lit that wrong track on fire and strapped us in while accelerating towards a pit of despair
We have been on the wrong track for decades
What does this even mean? When did we start going down the “wrong track”?
Two inflection points:
1.) When every Confederate politician & officer wasn’t hanged by the neck until dead.
2.) When Nixon wasn’t prosecuted for Watergate.
Ronald Regan
So all presidents since Reagan have been the same?
What is with this obsession with trying to normalize the Trump presidency?
Reganomics and the neoliberal policies that were born from Regan destroyed America and possibly are going to destroy the EU too. https://today.duke.edu/2019/01/road-trump-began-reaganomics-loss-middle-class-economist-says
I get your point but I don’t think that was his intent.
I may be naive. If so, I’m sorry.
Since bush that I can remember, but probably before that.
Regan. The person you’re thinking of is Regan.
The person you’re thinking of is Regan
Leave her out of this, please. Blame Captain Howdy, not the girl.
I guess we can see where the old captain is right now…
Johnson
Andrew Jackson
In the beginning, America was discovered. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move.
A lot of slaves would agree with that.
Sounds scientific.
