• chunes@lemmy.world
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    1998 not only had the best scrollbar, but the best UI overall. Shoulda just stopped then and we would have utopia by now

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      I’d say 2001 and 2006 purely because the scrollbar is textured in a way that make it seem dragable at first glance |=|.

      Which is standard by now but still, besides that 1998 has all the other visual cues to denote what’s clickable and i would otherwise agree as i generally prefer flatter designs.

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        that’d be helpful if they were wider than 5px.

        I’m in my 50s with macular degeneration so seeing small things can be difficult.

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          Yeah they’re not great in that regard. Still, i’d expect a setting in accessibility to help with this. I’m not near a computer now but i’ll look next time

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    I hate the modern ones you need to hover above so they even display, and then it’s 1 pixel wide and a shade of grey that’s about 2% darker than white.
    Less functional and 500 lines of js garbage.

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      It’s a few lines of css, no JS required.

      .my-div:hover {
        overflow-x: scroll;
      }
      

      And the look and feel of the scrollbar is generally determined by the browser/OS. Unless someone does a custom scrollbar implementation, but that is exceedingly rare. So that thin rounded gray bar is a browser/OS design, again, without any JS.

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          Oh, interesting, that’s pretty new. Technically it’s not an official part of the W3C spec yet, but it’s close enough that browsers support it now. Though, it only allows you to control the bar color, track color (which is generally invisible nowadays, so track color changes nothing), and width. So, yes, more customization than was there before, but still extremely minimal.

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        I don’t know about scrollbars specifically, but apparently a lot of windows 11 is written in react

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      Some suck, sure, but some work well. The ones on MacOS are good IMO, and some android ones (while others absolutely suck).

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      UX, whatsat?

      Also, it completely disappears after a second.

      And why is it a different color on the addons page anyway??

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    I like how they added some grip between 2001 - 2009 so you would have some traction when you used then

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    To me, they are just indicators of how much content I can expect. I scroll with the mouse wheel or using the page down/up keys. I don’t grab the thing. I only need to see the indicator when I am scrolling.

    But I wonder whether there is a accesibility aspect to always visible and wide scrollbars. I think, the best way to deal with it, is to make it an option how they look and behave.

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      What about some scrollable window with something like 10k+ lines, though? Sure, if you have a mouse with a free-spinning function, it’s still doable, but a draggable scrollbar comes in handy then.

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        Maybe a smart way to handle that would be to show a wide scrollbar when there is so much content? Idk.

        I would probably expect filters that are always visible regardless at which line I am currently. Sadly, this isn’t the case very often and I have to go back to the top and apply the filters.

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      Touchscreens don’t have wheels on them. Styluses/pens also don’t (usually). The latter usually acts more as a mouse than a touchscreen in software, so you can’t scroll by dragging the page.

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    1998 was truly the best time. When all OS widgets looked the same. And could be used in apps, and everything had a consistent look. Yeah you could override this in your app. But fuck people who did that. Everything looked so nice and uniform and you knew what to expect from a widget and its look and behavior. Get off my lawn.

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    Do you remember the feel of switching from 1998 to 2001? It felt like stepping into the future.

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    imho the clustered version of the scroll bar buttons (like in Amiga Workbench 2.0+, Macintosh OS, macOS, KDE) make way more sense to me (minimal mouse movement to change scroll direction) than this spread out layout.

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        My only criticism is lack of affordance on the slider. Is the dark part the slider or the light part? Some of the newer ones have the little ridges for “traction”.

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        The issue with 1988 is that it isn’t intuitive what the background color is, and thus if the bar is up or down.

        The middle years are obvious because of the 3d effect. The last one is obvious because the background is the same for both the arrows and the bar.