The batteries do contain rare minerals like lithium but these can be recovered and recycled. EVs can be charged with solar, wind and other renewables even tho many places in the USA still burn coal or natural gas.
Once you burn gasoline in your ICE vehicle then it’s gone, it turns into gasses that go into the atmosphere and can’t easily be recovered into anything of much use.
EVs are the future and we all know it. Gasoline will continue to become more expensive and more difficult to extract.
I’d argue with the level of shit were in with the climate, the no cars lifestyle should be the future.
It might be in a few nations with strong public transit already like Japan and a number or European nations but honestly idk if it will ever happen in the USA at least not in my life time.
We went from zero cars to everything covered in cars in a lifetime, we can go back in a lifetime.
Attitudes around public transport have to change. It’s seen as a thing poor people use in some cities so the affluent kill expansion efforts. And even where it doesn’t have that stigma, nobody wants to pay for infrastructure.
It’s so neat to have a problem that combines poor numeracy with not being able to see two steps ahead. Yeah, if could somehow grow the Venn diagram of people with those two skills that would be great.
OK but that’s about as realistic in the next 40+ years as genetically engineered flying pigs.
Incremental progress is good.
Then I guess surviving the climate collapse will be just as realistic.
Incrementalism is what has killed us. Incrementalism plus crony capitalism equals absolute zero.
I can tell you that keeping an existing decent ICE is better than buying a new EV. But once you have to buy a new car anyway, and an EV fits your usage pattern and operational environment there are no reasons not to buy one.
Yeah, it’s a bullshit clickbait headline to ignore this fact.
So that’s not what the article was saying
worst part of getting old is watching everyone around you gradually get dumber
I didn’t realise anyone still uses facebook. Like in developed countries I mean.
I live in Atlanta and when I turned 21 (a couple years ago, but post 2020) I was kinda irritated because literally everything in the entire city was planned on Facebook Events, and I hated using Facebook.
It’s overwhelmingly popular, especially in the 30+ crowd, not even restricted to your 55+. Genuinely everyone would create Facebook events (before Partiful got popular) to invite people over on a Saturday
Edit: spelling
Hey you keep us 30 somethings out of this. I don’t know anyone my age still on Facebook. We’re leaving Instagram too. Fuck social media and fuck platforms owned and controlled by billionaires.
Amazing how an entire age group doesn’t think and act the same tho - it’s almost like they’re made up of individuals. Who would have guessed?
I’m still on there, primarily because a band I’m in uses it for events invites and uses Messenger for coordination group texts
Gas cars are better! (says the gas station owner)
Article leaves out tires and tire wear pollution which is significant and bad stuff. It’s also worse in heavier vehicles. Yes, EVs, especially if CATL can get their sodium battery line off the ground, are better overall, but let’s not oversimplify. Also, the most environmental car is still a car…
What do you propose we do to solve tyres?
I guess more trams would be cool
This is the way
Light rail would be great alright, but I’m curious about a car tyre replacement
Of course fossil fuels are worse, but that doesn’t mean EVs are a magically green utopia machine either.
Literally no-one has said that
Really? The manufacturers certainly seem to push such allusions in their advertising.
People platform-independently use social media echo chambers to reinforce their own biases and suppress contrary thinking. I think it’s an attempt to find comfort zones and avoid self-questioning, which is inherently uncomfortable and involves effort.
Is lemmy the same kind of comfortable echo chamber?
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MIT Study Finds (New) Gas Cars Aren’t Secretly Better For The Planet Than (New) EVs, Despite What Everyone On Facebook Says
Fixed that disinfo for ya.
No, no you didn’t. But that’s okay little buddy. Someday your fantasy will be true.
Let me ask Facebook how credible this study is…
@Grok, is this legit?
Tap for spoiler
/s
*grok speaks against the favor of petroleum industry and is taken offline to be lobotomized yet another time*
What we really should have done is made the Car Talk guys president. If there’s one thing I know for sure, it’s that those two would never have forced me to listen to what some MIT grad thinks.
Absolute gold! (The hosts of Car Talk were both MIT grads)
MIT Study VS Facebook posts. Hard choice.
Well the headline alone is misleading disinformation.
People shouldn’t blindly trust that MIT is somehow immune from the failures of capitalist science. It’s literally the heart of the MIC. Endless bullshit coming out of there.
Well the Misinformation Institute of Technology just cannot be trusted. It’s in the name!!
Everyone who was around during the pandemic knows that facebook is gonna win
Look at everything the MIT has done for us!
Yeah but I heard this one scientist said one time that EVs actually cause more cancers and make trees grow less leaves
EVs beat me up and killed my dog.
EVs stole my wife and shot my kids.
You got cybercucked
EVs turned me into a newt!
A newt?
I got better?
No, that was a cop.
Trans trees! And bushes! Trans nature!
Is that what you want!?
The solar panels on my roof that I use to charge my car suck up all the sun and stop my grass growing
Was that a scientist, or scientologist?
Maybe someone with a political science degree?
