As a non American, even I can see this is just a scam to further invade privacy and the data used to get increase health insurance costs
What about sporting insertables instead?
I’m gonna need a detailed explanation of exactly what you mean, for the purposes of clear and effective communication.
Insertables go into your butt.
Go on…
Fuck you RFK my Casio can’t and won’t connect to the internet, go swim in more sewage you dolt
Man, I feel like sick, lemme check my health watch.
status: unhealthy
Can I receive healthcare?
no
Health care is only for the healthy.
To see if you qualify for an upgrade to healthy status please input your net worth including all stocks, bonds, precious metals, fine art, jewelry & accessories, private aircraft, and yachts.
Guess we’ll cut food stamps but tell people who can afford to to get a watch
eat shit and go to hell.
He does probably eat shit so he’s at least half way there
So the vaccine is the government implanting a tracker into me, but watches that track my vitals and send them God knows where is hunky dory?
These anti government types always have such a hard time when they become the government.
Every accusation is a confession and all that
Having watched his actual statement, is not that they want your data. That’s a red herring in the article.
But that the average American is so out of touch with how food --presumably bad, shitty food and nutrition-- interacts with their body, that them, the individual, being able to know of how, for example, that 2nd Coke, and bag of chips is screwing up your insulin levels, and how it get affected in real time could be a positive drive for change in lifestyle. The fact is that the USA has an obesity pandemic and most people’s knowledge of nutritional science can be laughable at best. 60+% of Americans are overweight. And 33% are literally obese, including kids.
You do not have to buy a wearable. They are not making or forcing to you wear a wearable and they are not going to ask you to show papers before you want to enter a restaurant proving that you use or own a wearable. He said that he would prefer it because how do you empower people who know next to nothing? Is it the only way? Nope. Of course not, but the system has been so captured by interest groups that many changes may not be politically feasible. They could be done in theory but not in practice right now. Europe had s superior take on nutrition than the USA, for example.
Personally, I would never wear a wearable but I also spent a lot of time studying Nutritional Science and attempt to leave a healthy lifestyle. It is an extra load of work that cuts into other things and not many may want to do but it is one that it is worth doing for yourself and the family.
Additionally, I have friends who are Doctors and the concept of wearables is not always well received. Privacy concerns aside, the worry is that it can turn a lot of people into hypochondriacs if they do not fully understand some basics of human anatomy and take raw data out of context. Not to mention a waste of resources if people want to run tests for absolutely everything they think might be wrong with it. It can also be a source for unnecessary stress in some people.
Sometimes I want to buy juice that doesn’t have a shitload of sugar in it
You haven’t researched as well as you think you have. Even freshly squeezed juice is unhealthy. You need the pulp too in order to slow the sugar metabolism, in which case you may as well just eat fruit.
Check Robert Lustig re sugars.
A wearable will be totally useless if the owner has no clue what he should do or don’t. Leaving people with a guilty mood will not help anyone. You cannot improvise yourself a nutritionist and most people cannot. The facts are you must first know how to cook because you will not find a healthy diet in the frozen meal aisle. Also, you cannot improvise yourself a kinesiologist. You cannot establish a sound workout routine without help or some knowledge in this matter.
That guy, Robert Fucking Kennedy doesn’t know shit about how to turn unhealthy people into healthy people. He’s just a fucking dork with no real life experience.
But that the average American is so out of touch with how food --presumably bad, shitty food and nutrition
A substantial part is that our food is filled with shit.
They add sugar to everything. Food marketing is insane, and so much of it should be illegal.
Sometimes I want to buy juice that doesn’t have a shitload of sugar in it. Getting a loaf of bread will involve eating extra sugar. The country subsidizes corn, so high fructose corn syrup is added to everything.
Unregulated hell capitalism means that food gets to be pumped full of shit. Broke and stressed people rely on convenience foods - which don’t need to be unhealthy but are purposefully made so with addictive ingredients.
Bro wrote a novel just to say they’re dumb as rocks. Lmao.
And I want RFK, along with the rest of these anti-human ghouls to be dropped into an active volcano, but we don’t always get what we want, do we?
I love how these extremist Christian Republicans always go on about the mark of the beast and how everyone will be forced to wear it but that the righteous man won’t wear it…
All of them will do this, mark my words. These fuckers are worshipping Satan as far as they know and they’re fine with it.
Everyone in America has to give out their social security numbers to every fucking company and government department because it’s the closest thing we have to a national ID.
Why can’t we have a real, secure, National ID system? Because it’s the mark of the beast!!
But now that RFK Jr wants to hunt people for sport I’m sure they will fall in line.
Anti-science brain worm dumbfuck says what?
casio calculator watch or bust
They lobotomized the wrong Kennedy.
You know what else would help? Annual (or more) blood tests during routine wellness checks with your doctor.
Do you know why most people don’t get those?
Insurance won’t cover them.Many insurance providers won’t cover them.Maybe start there? Although I’m guessing he has no buddies who would make money from routine blood tests.
The best part is the random bill.
- Go to the doctor. Get blood drawn.
- Doctor send the blood to a lab for the test. Doesn’t tell me who. I don’t care who. It’s their subcontractor, let them worry about it. *Go back to the doctor or get a call for results. Pay the doctor the standard co-pay. *Months later a random company sends me a bill. This is a company that I have never interacted with or entered into any contract with, for work that somebody else (presumably my doctor, but who the fuck knows for sure) asked them to do for them, sending the results to that other person and NOT to me.
The system is broken. If any other company subcontracted a part of their work to a third party, you as the client would reasonably expect that work to be paid through the original contract, not get a bill directly from the subcontractor. I didn’t hire them, the doctor hired them. As far as I’m concerned, that’s the doctor’s subcontractor and their debt, not mine. I paid the doctor already.
Or another variant.
- Go to the emergency room.
- Get separate bills FOR THE SAME SERVICE from the hospital, the doctor, and somehow the hospital again but this time it’s the emergency room (which is somehow separate with a different billing company).
The system is not just broken. It is designed to fleece us and train us to always accept whatever debt the institutions decide to levy on us without question.
Or how about the variant:
- submit prescription refill request
- check back
- check back
- check back
- escalate
- “we don’t have your insurance info”
- yes you do but here it is again
- resubmit prescription refill request
- check back
- check back
- check back
- escalate
- “we don’t accept that insurance. Find a new doctor”
New doctor
- “why don’t you take your prescriptions regularly?”
As medical bills can’t currently ding your credit score, I just throw them in the trash.
Only up to $500 though? And if you keep ignoring them, what will you do when you run out of providers? I can’t go to the one hand expert in the area because I owe him money. Same for the CVS doc.
They send it to the same collection agency. They have never denied us care yet.
Thanks for answering! Maybe I just need to go back?
That would be a violation of the hiipa act. Your samples get sent anonymous to the Lab with only a case number. They only know the adress of the doctor.
If your doctor didn’t anonymise your sample and the lab used it to send you a bill, they’re in deep waters.
Not when the lab and the hospital are owned by the same company. Promedica (local hospital) sent my sample to Promedica (lab) and I got a bill from the lab. Because Promedica (lab) didn’t have my insurance information.
Somehow I think the national lab test company’s lawyers have got them covered. This wasn’t exactly a fly by night, no name company. Having in known third party send you a medical bill months later is pretty fucking common place. This was just one anecdote of many, not an isolated incident.
The doctor bill is separate because they’re not hospital employees. The only have privileges to work at a given hospital, not for them.
The separate ER bill is likely some fuckery I’m ignorant of.
You know what else would help? Annual (or more) blood tests during routine wellness checks with your doctor.
Do you know why most people don’t get those?
Insurance won’t cover them.
My insurance covers this.
I tweaked. Many (most?) don’t.
Interesting. I’ve never had an issue with it over multiple insurances. Maybe it’s just the plans my employers went with ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I chose to stop wearing a watch more than 20 years ago. I thought about getting one for the health benefits five years ago, but concluded that I don’t want to have a watch nor cover an awesome tattoo. As a friend once wrote, “wearing a watch is like being handcuffed to time.”
As a friend once wrote, “wearing a watch is like being handcuffed to time.”
This is pretty out-of-touch. I mean, a lot of us kinda need to know the time at some point. It takes a special kind of privilege to be able to unshackle yourself from any semblance of a schedule, a privilege that not many of us have.
It was a note he wrote down for himself while on strong psycadelics. I don’t think that nullifies the observation.
Ahh, that makes sense.
I have a decent sense of time and an abundance of options to verify it
I have a decent sense of time
I don’t lol. I mean can check outside, even out in the middle of nowhere, and have a rough idea; but I like knowing it because that’s just how my brain works.
and an abundance of options to verify it
Sure. Phone, computer, microwave, oven, TV, wall clock, city clock tower, someone else’s watch, etc. But again, I like having it right on my wrist. I’ve worn watches by my own choice since I was a kid, and now I’ve got a small collection.
“I’ve worn watches by my own choice since I was a kid”
Lets hope it remains a choice
I agree wholeheartedly. I like my watches. I also recognize that many others don’t.
It’s certainly nice to live a life free of responsibility for others, but that’s a massive and selfish privilege.
“wearing a watch is like being handcuffed to time.”
That’s perfect! I’m stealing this. I HATE, despise, loath in every respect clocks, watches, calendars and any other form of scheduling oppression. Go pound sand - I’ll show up when I show up.
You would have a nervous breakdown in my house. Clocks in every room and 20 watches hanging in my room.
Stop it Patrick! You’re scaring him!
Do you have children or elderly parents to care for?
Do you take your phone everywhere? Does it have a clock you use on it?
So, guess the only difference is that one has an armband and the other you stare at for a lot longer?
If you do not have a phone either, then hats off to you.
I leave my phone somewhere in my home and walk into a different room. Which undoubtedly has a clock. It also doesn’t cover my cool 8-bit video game sprites tattoo.
From: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/21/rfk-maha-ultra-processed-foods
A key adviser to Kennedy, Calley Means, could directly benefit from one of the campaign’s stated aims: popularizing “technology like wearables as cool, modern tools for measuring diet impact and taking control of your own health”.
Calley Means is a senior Kennedy adviser, and was hired as a special government employee to focus on food policy, according to Bloomberg. He founded a company that helps Americans get such wearable devices reimbursed tax-free through health savings accounts.
Casey Means is Calley’s sister. She also runs a healthcare start-up, although hers sells wearable devices such as continuous glucose monitors. She is Kennedy’s nominee for US surgeon general, and a healthcare entrepreneur whose business sells continuous glucose monitors – one such wearable device. Calley Means’s company also works with Casey’s company.
Due to Calley Means’s status as a special employee, he has not been forced to divest from his private business interests – a situation that has already resulted in an ethics complaint. Consumer advocates, such as the non-profit group Public Citizen, had warned such hiring practices could cause conflicts of interest. HHS did not respond to a request for comment about Calley Means’s private business interests, or his role in crafting the publicity campaign.
