The president previously said negotiations were “proceeding nicely.”

“Targets included missile launch sites and Iranian boats attempting to emplace mines. U.S. Central Command continues to defend our forces while using restraint during the ongoing ceasefire.”

The strikes come just hours after Trump said negotiations with Iran were “proceeding nicely.”

  • Blurstoftimes@feddit.onlineEnglish
    100·
    9 days ago

    Always happens when the market’s closed. Drag up the war then say it’ll end by the end of the week. Hope no one notices the Epstein files. Repeat.

  • BucketBong@p.hobo.socialEnglish
    68·
    9 days ago

    Friday: Trump close to a deal with Iran

    Monday: Trump doubles down on attack of Iran

    Friday: Trump close to a deal with Iran

    Monday: Trump doubles down on attack of Iran

    Rinse and repeat…

  • droniecarp@lemmy.zip
    58·
    9 days ago

    What’s most fucked up about this is it is strictly 100% about manipulating the markets and making money, that’s it.

  • ExtremeDullard@piefed.socialEnglish
    55·
    9 days ago

    You mean the deal that only Trump and his henchmen said was going swimmingly but nobody else saw or heard any detail about fell through? Gee, color me surprised…

    • IamSparticles@lemmy.zipEnglish
      23·
      9 days ago

      He’s like a school kid that didn’t finish an essay. He keeps saying he’ll turn it in tomorrow. Then tries to lie and say he did turn it in but the teacher hasn’t graded it yet. Then when that doesn’t pan out somehow the teacher lost it. It can’t possibly be his fault.

      • turtlesareneat@piefed.caEnglish
        11·
        9 days ago

        A lot of rich people act exactly like that, they know their lawyers will get them out of any trouble they really get into. A lot of times other folks just stop arguing with them and they get their way because they just kept the lie up in such a delusional way, it’s easier to walk away.

    • iocase@lemmy.zip
      28·
      9 days ago

      Fart of the squeal.

      Bakrupts casino

      Decides that’s not big enough

      Bankrupts the US and plunges the world into a depression

        • osanna@lemmy.vgEnglish
          9·
          9 days ago

          THREE casinos

          How in the actual fuckity fucking fuck do you bankrupt ONE casino, let alone fucking three of them

          • MrVilliam@sh.itjust.works
            1·
            9 days ago

            Intentionally.

            Hey guys, invest money in my new casino! It’s a license to print money!

            Cool, now I’ll just pay myself from the casino funds for my contribution to marketing, interior design, management, consulting, and it’s gone. It’s all gone. Oops, bankrupt. It happens, business is risky.

            Hey guys, invest money in my new casino!

            And suppose that the investors were using dirty money for the investments, and trump was giving it back to them after the fact with just a little skimmed off the top for himself, also getting in their good graces and accumulating favors for laundering that money. It sure would explain all the ties between him and the Russian mob, huh?

  • fox2263@lemmy.worldEnglish
    34·
    9 days ago

    Isn’t pretending to have peace talks while bombing them a war crime or something

      • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
        121·
        9 days ago

        Not exactly. Roosevelt scheduled talks with Japan, and then had the diplomats to Japan skip the meetings. He did this multiple times. IIRC that was either the 12th or 13th meeting that the US delegation didn’t attend. At that point Japan decided that the US wasn’t actually interested in peace talks and attacked.

        So in that case, as an American, I am inclined to believe that Japan was genuinely interested in the peace talks. We weren’t, or more specifically our president wasn’t interested in peace talks.

        Wilson also didn’t help matters by setting the stage for WWII.

  • melsaskca@lemmy.ca
    291·
    9 days ago

    I’m seeing in the billionaire-owned media that they were “self-defense” strikes. SMH.

  • Furbag@pawb.social
    26·
    9 days ago

    Every week is like groundhog day. Trump declares victory, claims that peace talks are underway, and then they drop more bombs, without any deal being reached.

    It amazes me that there are still people gullible enough to believe that this isn’t another forever war for us and that gas isn’t going back down any time soon.

    • TrippingBalls@lemmy.world
      8·
      9 days ago

      It dropped 5% for the holiday weekend. Never seen that happen before. The art of the deal

      There’s a sucker born every minute and 30+% of the population still think he’s a good president

      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
        3·
        9 days ago

        It dropped 5% for the holiday weekend.

        Off an 80% spike since the year started.

        30+% of the population still think he’s a good president

        As a person in the O&G industry, I regret to say he’s good for me. My salary/bonus is fully outrunning inflation. Nevermind the compound stock gains juicing my 401k.

        Trump’s still shit in my book. But if I started out a Republican, why would I object to any of this shit?

        A Global Crusade Against The Wretched Islam, ballooning profits, violent police actions against all those horrible minorities we don’t like, that cool new ballroom, kidnapping the president of Venezuela, our SCOTUS is rigging the next election, what’s not to love?

        • WarlockLawyer@lemmy.world
          5·
          9 days ago

          O&G was booming under Biden as well though? Like the endless expansion in the Permian Basin was going full throttle, just with a least some oversight. The companies weren’t even drilling all their leases because they didn’t want to drop the price of oil.

          • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            8 days ago

            O&G was booming under Biden as well though?

            It was actively competing with Alt Energy that the federal government sought to subsidize and promote.

            Nobody in the Biden administration was paying TotalEnergies a billion dollars to abandon plans to build offshore wind farms off the coasts of New York and North Carolina

    • chiliedogg@lemmy.world
      5·
      8 days ago

      It’s only a forever war is we don’t remove the motherfuckers who refuse to stop him.

      November may be our last chance. I know not everyone here loves the Dems, but they really are our only hope at this point, and we need to support them in the general election.

    • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      9 days ago

      Even if he did, this asshole thinks that things on the global stage work like they did when he was running “deals” for his dad’s shitty real-estate company.

      So very out of his depth.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
      102·
      9 days ago

      Anyone who thinks President JD Vance is going to end the the war is going to get rug pulled harder than folks holding the HawkTuhaCoin bags.

      • IratePirate@feddit.org
        12·
        9 days ago

        I have no illusion things will get better under the other motherfucker. I just want things to get worse for that one motherfucker.

          • IratePirate@feddit.org
            5·
            9 days ago

            Nostradamus was a prophet of doom. I’m just a Joe Average who, after 18 months of having to watch this shitshow unfold, seeks some much-deserved solace in the knowledge that one particularly despicable sack of shit is finally with the worms.

            Champagne is in the cooler, waiting to be popped. You’re not going to take this away from me, mate. ;)

            • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2·
              8 days ago

              one particularly despicable sack of shit is finally with the worms.

              There’s a line of shit out the door and around the corner to take his place. If Trump did not exist, Ted Cruz would be president and nothing would be any better.

              These problems aren’t individualistic. They’re systematic. In a better world Trump would just be filling the shoes of Joan Rivers, not commanding a nuclear arsenal.

              Losing sight of the reactionary forest for one big orange tree is how we ended up with Joe Biden flubbing it for four years during the Trump interregnum

              • IratePirate@feddit.org
                1·
                7 days ago

                If you’ve got haemorrhoids, it’s OK to want them gone, even if you know they’ve got underlying cause. Likewise, you can do both: see the systemic problems that enabled Trump, and still be happy to see the motherfucker meet his timely demise.

                • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  11·
                  7 days ago

                  If you’ve got haemorrhoids, it’s OK to want them gone

                  You’re just pointing to one orange bump and praying it goes away

          • TheKingBee@lemmy.worldEnglish
            3·
            8 days ago

            You don’t have to be Nostrodamus to predict that the 80 year old man who really looks their age and has near monthly “routine” health checks and brags about passing the kinds of cognitive tests they only give when they think you have dementia is going to die soon…

            • Nautalax@lemmy.world
              1·
              8 days ago

              I think people are getting their hopes too high expecting him to expire any day now. Actuarial tables for men give only like a 5-6% chance of death in a year for men his age. While he’s obviously not in peak condition, the average Americans those tables are based on certainly aren’t either and unlike most of them he does have the benefit of insane resources to throw at whatever medical challenge (ex. the experimental Covid therapy that saved his life when he got infected with that) and very regular scanning. Plus genetics is a factor and his dad lived to 93 while his mom got to 88.

  • fodor@lemmy.zip
    22·
    9 days ago

    Any media that’s pretending to be honest needs to, if they’re going to quote Trump, either precede or proceed the quote with a disclaimer that he lies about everything. That’s basic integrity. Otherwise, you’re becoming the media that’s complicit.

    • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
      3·
      9 days ago

      I would settle with them giving the full quote completely in context. The only reason Trump has gotten so far is the media sane washing everything he says and adding whatever spin the talking heads want to it.

    • Vlyn@lemmy.zipEnglish
      8·
      9 days ago

      Weirdly the markets no longer seem to care. Strait is closed? Meh, new all time high.

      No clue what is going on.

      • BeMoreCareful@lemmy.worldEnglish
        9·
        9 days ago

        After 2008, what’s the worst that can happen?

        The House is covering all bets.

        They’re gambling with monopoly money.

      • M0oP0o@mander.xyz
        4·
        9 days ago

        There is just no where else to park money in the amounts the markets currently service. That is it, simply that there is so much capital just sitting around in the market that it becomes a self fulfilling cycle.

        Market prices are based off of amount of money put in the market --> There is not another place to get returns on investment as good as the market --> More money is put into the market (stock buy backs instead of hiring for example) --> Markets rise to “new all time highs” --> Those with assets in the market gain as prices are based off the amount of money put in the market --> Those gains have to be used in some investment (otherwise they erode due to inflation) --> There is not another place to get returns on investment as good as the market… And loop over and over.

        The markets are now de laminated from the real economic reality, and as they grow they become more so. Investments in real things (and not wild schemes like crypto and LLMs) becomes less and less desirable compared to just putting the money back into the market. Bonds and other securities used to compete with the stock market and worked as a grounding force to the market, but not anymore. So now all the capital is off in la la land and since the market can’t crash if there is more money always being put into the market, the market will see “all time highs” as long as there is money to be put into the market. How does this cycle end? No idea really, you could have something else show up that gives better returns making the markets finally crash or you could have this continue until functionally money will not exist outside of the market (both situations are so wildly outlandish that it seems nothing will change).

          • M0oP0o@mander.xyz
            1·
            8 days ago

            The money entering the markets. Its not the same amount in the pool but an ever growing amount, not sustainable but at a scale that makes it seem like it is. There are losers and winners in the system but overall the market goes up as long as more investment goes in then out. The real losers will become apparent when capital starts being removed from the markets, but at this time there is not a valid place other then the market to put that money so here we are in an endless seemingly stable ponzi scheme.

              • M0oP0o@mander.xyz
                2·
                7 days ago

                The market used to represent how well the business on it where doing. Earnings and fundamentals would dictate market value and or dividends for shareholders. Businesses do good, shareholders get rewarded.

                Now businesses market value is (generally) wildly over inflated, not really tied to real world results. The market is demand driven however so if shares are still being bought more then sold the value goes up. Although individual companies on the market will go up and down the overall market always goes up (and faster then inflation mostly) as long as more money goes into the market overall then comes out (more “buys” then “sells”). There is no competition really for investment outside the market more money is always being put into that market.

                Basicly, line goes up now only due to the expectation that line goes up. Not company does well, but that more money goes in then out and therefore more demand then supply of shares. Most know this is how it works but since there is no where as good to invest there is no reason not to put all into the market and they know as long as everyone does the same; line go up.

                • certified_expert@lemmy.world
                  1·
                  7 days ago

                  Doesn’t this inevitably ends with money itself losing its value?

                  It seems that people is paying and receiving money for purely speculative reasons, no?

  • RanryuuRain@sh.itjust.works
    19·
    9 days ago

    Expecting any other behavior at this point is light-years beyond foolish. The word of the president has been proven useless time and time again. He has made it now impossible to deal with the US, as any deals are subject to be altered at his petty whims. We saw this with the tariffs and we will continue to see it.